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Is this patchable?

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Hi guys,

I don't really want to buy a new tire given these stock BTs have less than 3k and haven't even began to show wear, but I picked up this screw last week and have tried to convince myself it's patchable. This is my first puncture, and it's a slow one, too.

However, given the angle of entry, what's everyone's consensus? I know patches are usually best suited for straight punctures, and this is not a straight-in screw. Is the mushroom head gonna have issues sealing this one up?

Thanks in advance for any input.photo.jpg
 
It's in the tread area, so it should be repairable. An internal patch is generally considered to be more "permanent", but you have to break the tire off the rim to install. A plug is quicker and easier. Some will say that a plug is only intended to be temporary (until a patch can be performed), but I personally have never had a plug come out or start leaking again in my last 16 years of experience on construction equipment, cars, trucks, big trucks, and motorcycles.
 
Agree with Lou.

Since that is a screw, the easiest way to get it out is usually to unscrew it instead of trying to pull it straight out. I have no experience with mushroom plugs but a gummy plug (string plug, etc) should have no problem sealing it.
 
Awesome - that's exactly what I was hoping to hear. I don't have the tools/space/knowledge to do this work myself so called up a shop who said they only do plugs (after I sign a waiver). But after hearing this I might run to Cycle Gear and see if they have a patch kit/gummy plugs etc that I can have them use instead.

Thanks guys!
 
Agree with Lou.

Since that is a screw, the easiest way to get it out is usually to unscrew it instead of trying to pull it straight out. I have no experience with mushroom plugs but a gummy plug (string plug, etc) should have no problem sealing it.

I've not used mushroom plugs either but have many frineds that have and still had leak issues. Not saying they don't work but several people I know went back to the good ole I am a Spammer worms.
 
The mushroom plug kits are generally stocked at Cycle Gear and similar places. I've never used that type. I've always used the "gummy string" type with good results. Another good thing is that you can generally find those kits anywhere (Walmart, Target, Lowes, Home Depot, lawn mower shops, etc).
 
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The mushroom plug kits are generally stocked at Cycle Gear and similar places. I've never used that type. I've always used the "gummy string" type with good results. Another good thing is that you can generally find those kits anywhere (Walmart, Target, Lowes, Home Depot, lawn mower shows, etc).

This is good to know. I guess gummy-string-type is the way to go, and there is a Walmart that's far more accessible so I'll try that first.
 
I do motorcycle tire and car tire tire repairs for a living. I own a Goodyear tire store and the only acceptable repair for a motorcycle tire is to remove the tire and do a valcanized repair. Basically the tire is repair from the inside adding rubber then puting the tire in a heat press. Plugs are not a proper way to repair the tire. I've pulled many plugs out with my fingers. If you can't find anyone to do the valcanized repair then a patch repair from the inside is your next choice.
 
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I have used a mushroom plug with success. An advantage is that even if it leaks a little it won't come out. Some of the concern running on a tire that is plugged is tales of the plug coming out.

The screw may have entered fairly straight then bent over when the tire went around again. Unscrewing it as mentioned may show this.
 
IMHO, the single most crucial thing in a tire repair, is the competency of the person doing the repair. Not entirely the method or materials used, although they do play a very important role, obviously!

Some people just have bad luck or suck at repairing stuff. There are punctures in tires that I have very swiftly chosen not to attempt repairing, because I felt the hole was unfavourable to fill, due to type of cut, what did the puncture, where exactly the hole was, the string plugs I had available were not suitable, too old, etc., etc.

There have also been many puntures that looked pretty gnarly that I did choose to repair, and even those all still lasted years/thousands of miles perfectly, until the tire was so worn out as to need replacing.

I'm a good 'ol fashioned string plug tire repair guy. I will be until I'm too old to ride anymore, or that one fubar repair I might happen to make, does me in. Having a 100% success rate over 40 years worth of tire fixing, with every single flat tire I've repaired using the gummy worms, I'm not sure what argument could be used in opposition, to convince me otherwise?

Not a tire dude. Have nothing to show for my side of the debate, or am able to offer up proof of any kind to back me up. I will simply say to anyone with a flat tire, to use their best judgement and go with what they truly feel is their best, safest option. Not do anything that would cause them worry or grief if they chose wrong. :)
 
I picked a set of those up last week, they're much smaller diameter wise than I though they would be, but small punctures should be okay, I hope.
 
The mushroom plugs are good from what I was told.they patch from inside and out.it becomes part of a tire.a guy I know has his own repair shop and says they are good.
 
I have had luck with the gummy worm plugs on many different bikes, I am riding on one in the rear for over 3,000 miles now. Kits are cheap at WalMart or just about any gas station or convienence store.
 
Good to learn from everyone's experience. I thought the plug was a temporary repair and then an internal repair would be permanent. I feel better about the plug now, thanks. But I think I will still pull the tire and repair once off the road. I worry too much.
 
I don't really want to buy a new tire given these stock BTs have less than 3k and haven't even began to show wear, but I picked up this screw last week and have tried to convince myself it's patchable.

For me, I'm the person who replaces punctured tires. Recently, I had around 800 miles on new Angel GTs (on the ST), when the front took a small screw ==> New tire.
About 2,000 miles later, the rear took a scaffolding nail !! ==> New tire.

Anyway, I would only repair it via a patch *inside* the tire - no plugs allowed of *any* type (they're only a "roadside, get me home" fix).
 
I have used a mushroom plug with success. An advantage is that even if it leaks a little it won't come out. Some of the concern running on a tire that is plugged is tales of the plug coming out.

The screw may have entered fairly straight then bent over when the tire went around again. Unscrewing it as mentioned may show this.

I never about this being the case, but I hope that theory bares fruit. It'll make me trust the repair will work a lot more!



For me, I'm the person who replaces punctured tires. Recently, I had around 800 miles on new Angel GTs (on the ST), when the front took a small screw ==> New tire.
About 2,000 miles later, the rear took a scaffolding nail !! ==> New tire.

Anyway, I would only repair it via a patch *inside* the tire - no plugs allowed of *any* type (they're only a "roadside, get me home" fix).

Wow...wanna donate to the cause? Haha. I grabbed an NC because it was cheap to buy, cheap to run, and fuel efficient compared to my car (which only takes premium gas). If I could afford to spend $300 every time I got a puncture I would have probably picked other options. I'm prepared to if need be, but while I think there's a chance of only spending $60-odd to patch it, I'm going to try that route.


Thanks everyone for all the input and the sharing of experiences. Its reasons like this that make this forum awesome!
 
I haven't had a flat on my NCX yet knock on wood. I do use Ride-On in my tires though and have a gummy worm patch kit and compressor with CO2 bottles, just in case.
 
I bought a punctured tire from a forum member. The size and angle of the puncture was nearly identical to what you show. I used a Stop & Go "plug patch" installed from the inside before I mounted the tire. The repair was made at 250 tire miles. It's now at 7000 tire miles with no air leakage ever. I have confidence in this type of repair. The down side is the tire must be dismounted to install it.

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The guy I was talking about also has these that 670 showed.he swears by them and has 2 in different places on his rear.
 
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