Madstad Engineering - Need local NC700X for testing!

[670cc]

But I thought the denser cold air also had more oxygen per cc so it equaled a bigger Ka-Pow at each detonation.
Dunno though. I used to know, but I forgot.

If the engine got more oxygen, it would be capable of producing more power. The fuel injection system would adjust. But the human computer in your head compensates and opens the throttle only as needed to maintain the speed you want, and thus the amount of power produced and fuel consumed would not change at a steady speed. The denser air would require more power too push through, thereby increasing fuel consumption.

 

[dduelin]

Last night I began to fashion a small windscreen to protect the back of the instrument pod and funnel air up under the shield. It will mount in place of the OEM screen under the Madstad brackets that bolt through the OEM holes and though not as big I expect it to function in a manner similar to the metal baseplate. I made something like this for my 2012 mounted under the National Cycle Wind Deflector.

I got it cut to size and holes drilled but not edge finished last night. I call it the Bahrain MkII version. Of course pics to follow.

 

[Fuzzy]

Last night I began to fashion a small windscreen to protect the back of the instrument pod and funnel air up under the shield. It will mount in place of the OEM screen under the Madstad brackets that bolt through the OEM holes and though not as big I expect it to function in a manner similar to the metal baseplate. I made something like this for my 2012 mounted under the National Cycle Wind Deflector.

I got it cut to size and holes drilled but not edge finished last night. I call it the Bahrain MkII version. Of course pics to follow.

I put my Madstadd on the day I bought my NC two years ago and have not had the plate off since. What needs protecting behind the new screen? Or is it just cosmetic you are doing?

 

[670cc]

Is Madstad already going with this new design for forward production, or is this just being tested for feasibility and user acceptance?

 

[dduelin]

I put my Madstadd on the day I bought my NC two years ago and have not had the plate off since. What needs protecting behind the new screen? Or is it just cosmetic you are doing?

Refer to post 14 and 17 this thread. After removing the OEM screen I think the original Madstad plate protects the open space between the OEM mounts and down to the top of the head light. As mine is now anything coming along strikes the back side of the instrument pod. (#14 & #17). When I made up the shield system for my 2012 it looked like this. The new one is similar:

 

[dduelin]

Is Madstad already going with this new design for forward production, or is this just being tested for feasibility and user acceptance?

Madstad received a large order and they have to produce about 125 units for one customer. The new one is easier to build and ship but they did not want to make it less effective. Cody, who designed earlier ones, said after riding the test bikes including mine that the new one is quieter and works just as well. That might be hard to quantify as I did not ride behind an earlier version but I like it a lot. It's very efficient. I want to protect that area and have a temp gauge I mount under the instrument pod. It's water resistant but keeping a direct blast of rain water off of it helps keep it dry in the battery compartment.

 

[Madstad]

Is Madstad already going with this new design for forward production, or is this just being tested for feasibility and user acceptance?

As of right now we are moving forward with it and transitioning into the new system.

Here are a few pictures of it installed on our testers bikes.

Red Bike has a 24" Light Gray shield and the Black bike has a 20" Light Gray installed.

 

[greenex]

I like it. Is there a negative with going too big? For instance, I think a 22" screen would work, but would a 24" hurt?

 

[Nofear2trek]

I like it. Is there a negative with going too big?

I don't think so. Bigger is always better in my book. Thinking of the aerodynamic presentation my lumpy body gives off, a modern windscreen of any size must be a plus for mpg's!

Ray

 

[670cc]

I like to always look over or be able to look over a windscreen when riding in the rain. Between eyeglasses, face shield, and windscreen, there are six surfaces to collect water and impare vision. It's nice to eliminate two when possible.

 

[Wcmike]

The Madstad is adjustable so you can block as much wind as you want. I was running with an 18 inch for a few days so I just lifted it some. I have the 20 now. My thought on the 24 is that you would need to be pretty tall off the seat to look over it. Even with the recommended 60 degree tilt. I think the best way to look at it is where your eyes are when in the riding position. Me, I'm 30 inches from seat (front part) to eyeballs so that meant a 20 inch windshield. I can put it low for low speed summer riding or in the middle for most anything, or all the way up if I ever decided to look through it.

 

[Therapy]

The Madstad is adjustable so you can block as much wind as you want. I was running with an 18 inch for a few days so I just lifted it some. I have the 20 now. My thought on the 24 is that you would need to be pretty tall off the seat to look over it. Even with the recommended 60 degree tilt. I think the best way to look at it is where your eyes are when in the riding position. Me, I'm 30 inches from seat (front part) to eyeballs so that meant a 20 inch windshield. I can put it low for low speed summer riding or in the middle for most anything, or all the way up if I ever decided to look through it.

That is the magic of the Madstad. What no one else has.
Mine may be a bit tall but I am looking over it just fine. Cody said if it was too tall he would cut it down. I will know much better when it cools down. With the temps and humidity we still have here the windscreen works too well.

 

[dduelin]

That is the magic of the Madstad. What no one else has.
Mine may be a bit tall but I am looking over it just fine. Cody said if it was too tall he would cut it down. I will know much better when it cools down. With the temps and humidity we still have here the windscreen works too well.

Are the winglets still attached? I removed mine while riding last Saturday and got more air to the body from around the lower corners. It got hot around 88 degrees but the extra air made it acceptable.

 

[Therapy]

Are the winglets still attached? I removed mine while riding last Saturday and got more air to the body from around the lower corners. It got hot around 88 degrees but the extra air made it acceptable.

I just get too hot with high temps and high humidity.

 

[Wcmike]

I went back yesterday to swap out the 18 inch windscreen for the 20 inch model. I took the entire assembly down and put it back together just to see how it compared in construction to the older style. So I thought I would share.

I took a picture of all the parts:


The nut plate mounts to the NC without any issues.

As Dave mentioned earlier, you can mount the brackets with or without the winglets. Here it is with the winglets attached but it only takes a couple of minutes to remove or add them.


And a few more with the 20 inch version at both the recommended 60 degree angle...


And the 50 degree angle I used once in a while with the old version.


Outside of the metal plate, I really can't find any difference in the old and new versions from low speed to 75 MPH. A little wind travels directly up the inside of the windshield and, as I have it set up, hits the top part of my helmet so that I can get some air in the Arai's vents.

 

[dduelin]

I installed the flyscreen tonight under the Madstad brackets. This protects the back of the instrument pod and kind of cleans up the area directly above the headlight. This is cut from a smoke tint 5-snap helmet visor for a open face 3/4 helmet. Pics aren't very good.

 

[670cc]

I installed the flyscreen tonight under the Madstad brackets. This protects the back of the instrument pod and kind of cleans up the area directly above the headlight. This is cut from a smoke tint 5-snap helmet visor for a open face 3/4 helmet. Pics aren't very good.

Looks a lot better! But, it kinda goes full circle back to the original Madstad design. Wish they had left it alone . . .

 

[Madstad]

I went back yesterday to swap out the 18 inch windscreen for the 20 inch model. I took the entire assembly down and put it back together just to see how it compared in construction to the older style. So I thought I would share.

The nut plate mounts to the NC without any issues. If fit snug with screws in two of the holes and a third at the top.
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Outside of the metal plate, I really can't find any difference in the old and new versions from low speed to 75 MPH. A little wind travels directly up the inside of the windshield and, as I have it set up, hits the top part of my helmet so that I can get some air in the Arai's vents.

Hey Mike, Those nut plates are in backwards! They are not supposed to extend through the holes, but the extensions are supposed to face rearward. My guess is you probably figured this out when you went to bolt them to the brackets

 

[Wcmike]

Hey Mike, Those nut plates are in backwards! They are not supposed to extend through the holes, but the extensions are supposed to face rearward. My guess is you probably figured this out when you went to bolt them to the brackets

Well... that's embarrassing. I tried to remove that picture, but no luck. The nut plates are facing the right direction now.

 

[Madstad]

Well... that's embarrassing. I tried to remove that picture, but no luck. The nut plates are facing the right direction now.

Just wanted to make sure that your system is bolted on securely!