tngw1500se
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Why is he leaning the wrong way and what is he talking about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2wjDAiBRhQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2wjDAiBRhQ
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That's how it looks like. Nevertheless, this is Darwinism at work.I have the impression he is desperately trying to scrape the footrests over the pavement.
I am sorry, but riding hard into a corner either street style or dirt style is still going to be using the same contact point on the tire; depends on the skill of the rider. It also depends on the tire.He's riding 'crossed up', counterweighting the outside peg so he can induce more lean angle in order to turn sharper.
Riding on the edge of the tire like that deforms the contact patch and reduces total traction available. (Edit: Also introduces increased lateral forces and reduces the effectiveness of up/down suspension parts...)
It's fine on a dirtbike where there are knobbies all the way around and breaking the rear free with a blip of throttle is a legitimate way to steer.
On the street it's the sort of thing you do when making a U-turn on a narrow road, scrubbing in new tires in a parking lot etc... doing it in a high speed turn on the road is a great way to slide into oncoming traffic...
I used to ride my NC like that, leaning the bike beneath me and staying upright. A kindly instructor in the MSF Advanced Rider Course had me try hanging off instead, so now I do that even though it feels weird.
OTOH: Mick Doohan won a lot of races 'doing it wrong', much depends on your tires and smoothness.
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I am sorry, but riding hard into a corner either street style or dirt style is still going to be using the same contact point on the tire; depends on the skill of the rider. It also depends on the tire.
On the below picture (sorry, cheap phone picture), is the rear Conti Motion Pro-the contact point goes way over and curves around the side of the tire and ends just above the lettering on the tire. I have been close to the edge (as far as my skills allow) with no problems. If the rider knows how to ride dirt style on street, there shouldn't be any problem with tire and its contact point.
The net effect is there is less traction available when leaned over for braking and acceleration. Riders hang off because it keeps the bike more perpendicular through the turn and maximizes traction, this allows them to trail brake further into the turn and get on the throttle sooner after the apex.
On the other hand, it's exactly what I'm used to see with French motorcyclists...