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Pirelli Angel GT vs Michelin Road 6

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Decided I really need to replace my 10+ year old tires, bought the NC700S with very low mileage, but came with the original tires.
The tires still looked pretty good, but after more research... I think they really need replacement.

Looking at the website that works with the Honda dealer near me, I found 2 pretty good deals:
Pirelli Angel GT - 207 Euro (set excl. mounting cost)
Michelin Road 6 - 267,90 Euro (set excl. mounting cost)


Would it be worthy the extra cost to go for the newest technology, the Road 6 or should the Angel GT be sufficient?
There is also a lot in between like the the previous Road series or the Pilot Roads, can't find the Shinko 009 here unfortunately as they are also praised for their value of money.

I do mixed riding, lot of urban/city riding, occasionally twisties, occasionally pillion, don't go offroad with the NC700S.
I try to avoid rain, not very confident in the rain, so it's a plus if the tire gives confidants in the rain.

Thank for any input!
 
I have not tried the Road 6 but just went thru a set of Road 5's. They have lasted 7,870 miles (plus a little more since I'm still riding and my other tires haven't come in yet, but they are to the wear bars), handled great rain or shine. Good tires. I'm normally a Michelin guy, but I just ordered a set of the Angel GT's to replace the Michelins. They are an excellent tire too and they actually lasted a little longer on my CB 1100 than the Michelins on the NC 750, AND they cost less. So this time I'm going with the Pirelli's on the NC. Will see how long they last. I swear the latest and greatest tires on an under 500 pound 58 hp motorcycle ridden "normally" (not ridden hard) should last more than 7500 miles.

The original Metzler tires went 7130 miles.
 
If You were happy with 10 year old OEM tyres then I believe that the cheaper option is appropriate. Pirellis are good tyres and imho Michelins are better if You value serious angles of lean in dry or wet conditions.
 
If You were happy with 10 year old OEM tyres then I believe that the cheaper option is appropriate. Pirellis are good tyres and imho Michelins are better if You value serious angles of lean in dry or wet conditions.
The NC700S is the first big bike I've owned in a while again(in between rding some dirtbikes and small cc bikes in Asia) and I started out on these 10 year old OEM tires, never rode a NC700 before, so I have nothing to compare it against. That being said, I haven't really pushed the bike and never felt confident doing that, probably due to the tires and I think you're right anything is gonna be a major upgrade, so I am leaning towards the cheaper Pirelli's.
 
I have not tried the Road 6 but just went thru a set of Road 5's. They have lasted 7,870 miles (plus a little more since I'm still riding and my other tires haven't come in yet, but they are to the wear bars), handled great rain or shine. Good tires. I'm normally a Michelin guy, but I just ordered a set of the Angel GT's to replace the Michelins. They are an excellent tire too and they actually lasted a little longer on my CB 1100 than the Michelins on the NC 750, AND they cost less. So this time I'm going with the Pirelli's on the NC. Will see how long they last. I swear the latest and greatest tires on an under 500 pound 58 hp motorcycle ridden "normally" (not ridden hard) should last more than 7500 miles.

The original Metzler tires went 7130 miles.
Thanks for your input, might just go with the cheaper Pirelli's, I guess anything is gonna be a lot better than the 10 year old OEM tires.
 
The NC700S is the first big bike I've owned in a while again(in between rding some dirtbikes and small cc bikes in Asia) and I started out on these 10 year old OEM tires, never rode a NC700 before, so I have nothing to compare it against. That being said, I haven't really pushed the bike and never felt confident doing that, probably due to the tires and I think you're right anything is gonna be a major upgrade, so I am leaning towards the cheaper Pirelli's.

Believe me, the change will be very noticeable and will most likely result in a big boost to your confidence. OEM tyres on most Japanese bikes are not good. This is because regardless of brand, they are manufactured to the Bike manufacturers specifications. I found out this the hard way on two Hondas. One was the NC700X. It had Metzeler Z8's. They were supposedly good tyres. Yet they slipped badly on a number of occasions and I had no idea why. My former CRF1000L came with a set of Dunlops. I liked Dunlops. On several occasions from new I almost crashed that bike in the wet. I could spin it up in the wet in 4th gear they were so bad. I took it up with Dunlop and that was when they explained Honda's specs to me.
 
I haven't ridden the Road 6. Compared to previous Michelin Road series tires (I think the PR4 was the newest I had on the NCX), I like the Angel GT tires quite a bit better. They're far more 'fun' than the Michelins. The Michelins are good tires, and everybody says they're great in the wet (it rains rarely where I live), though I never had any trouble in the rain with any of the tires I've had on my NCX, including the Angel GTs. The Angels felt more connected, quicker-steering, felt like they had more grip, and were a bit lighter in weight. The only thing I didn't like so well about them was that the front tire wore out as quickly as the rear tire. WIth most tires on the NCX, I get approximately 2 rear tires' worth of life out of a front tire, but the Angels were about even.

The most direct comparison is between a Road 6 and an Angel GT II. I _almost_ put GT II tires on my K1600, but they're just SO expensive (like the Road 6 is) that I couldn't pass up the Dunlop RoadSmart IV instead.
 
I haven't ridden the Road 6. Compared to previous Michelin Road series tires (I think the PR4 was the newest I had on the NCX), I like the Angel GT tires quite a bit better. They're far more 'fun' than the Michelins. The Michelins are good tires, and everybody says they're great in the wet (it rains rarely where I live), though I never had any trouble in the rain with any of the tires I've had on my NCX, including the Angel GTs. The Angels felt more connected, quicker-steering, felt like they had more grip, and were a bit lighter in weight. The only thing I didn't like so well about them was that the front tire wore out as quickly as the rear tire. WIth most tires on the NCX, I get approximately 2 rear tires' worth of life out of a front tire, but the Angels were about even.

The most direct comparison is between a Road 6 and an Angel GT II. I _almost_ put GT II tires on my K1600, but they're just SO expensive (like the Road 6 is) that I couldn't pass up the Dunlop RoadSmart IV instead.
Sounds like the Michelins are just good at everything, but the Pirelli's might be a "bit" more fun and the name is just a lot cooler Pirelli Angel GT, can't get a lot better, lol.

Thanks for your input!
 
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I have never tried the Michelin tires. However, I have direct experience with the Pirelli Angel GT tires. I kept my tires at the recommended 36 psi front and 42 psi rear and my tires lasted just over 5,000 miles. The fronts were almost to the wear bars while the rear wore to the wear bar on the side before the center. The Pirelli is a sport ride oriented tire. It’s profile makes transforms the NC into a more agile motorcycle. I ride conservatively for most of my riding and do most of my riding in temps averaging around 50F. I never had any confidence issues on the Pirellis. I would recommend them for the price. However, I do want to try the Michelin’s just due to curiosity. Attached is the photo of my rear Pirelli Angel GT after I spooned it off the rim.
 

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I haven't ridden the Michelins but I went through a pair of Angel gts and I'm currently running angel gt 2s.

I absolutely love these tires they look slick on the bike and handle amazing in the curves. I ride in the winter and in rain regularly and I've never had an issue with them.

I put over an easy10k on my gts probably closer to 14k but that was beyond what I should have at the point haha
 
I haven't ridden the Michelins but I went through a pair of Angel gts and I'm currently running angel gt 2s.

I absolutely love these tires they look slick on the bike and handle amazing in the curves. I ride in the winter and in rain regularly and I've never had an issue with them.

I put over an easy10k on my gts probably closer to 14k but that was beyond what I should have at the point haha
Do you notice a big difference between the Angel GT 1 and Angel GT 2, worthed the extra bucks? as the GT 2 is quite pricey.
 
I have never tried the Michelin tires. However, I have direct experience with the Pirelli Angel GT tires. I kept my tires at the recommended 36 psi front and 42 psi rear and my tires lasted just over 5,000 miles. The fronts were almost to the wear bars while the rear wore to the wear bar on the side before the center. The Pirelli is a sport ride oriented tire. It’s profile makes transforms the NC into a more agile motorcycle. I ride conservatively for most of my riding and do most of my riding in temps averaging around 50F. I never had any confidence issues on the Pirellis. I would recommend them for the price. However, I do want to try the Michelin’s just due to curiosity. Attached is the photo of my rear Pirelli Angel GT after I spooned it off the rim.
Been reading a lot about these tires, it's interesting how mileage is so different per person.
While reading this I expected you to be an aggressive rider, but you claim to ride conservative, which is interesting...
 
Do you notice a big difference between the Angel GT 1 and Angel GT 2, worthed the extra bucks? as the GT 2 is quite pricey.

I dont know that I notice much of a difference or If I even would. It has a different center pattern that is supposed to be better in rain and the side tread is thicker I think for better grip and longer wear. I dsay if you can get the gt 2s' on sale get them otherwise go with the gts.

I think you'll discover one rider's conservative riding is another's aggressive. Who is to say what is really conservative.
 
Reading this thread through I think any new tires are going to feel much better. If you are riding well within the capabilities of the bike and your skills any choice you have mentioned will be good.
 
Reading this thread through I think any new tires are going to feel much better. If you are riding well within the capabilities of the bike and your skills any choice you have mentioned will be good.
To be honest, I really hope so.
Because I keep looking at my current tires and they don't really look that bad, currently at 9000 something km, production year late 2011 :confused:
I might post some pictures later, but everywhere I read, 10+ year old tires ALWAYS need to be replaced.
 
unused rubber hardens and cracks as it ages. 10 year old tires are certainly not as supple as new tires, and would not handle as well, would not absorb bumps as well, would not disperse water as well. Even if your tires "look" good, trust me, they're not.
 
unused rubber hardens and cracks as it ages. 10 year old tires are certainly not as supple as new tires, and would not handle as well, would not absorb bumps as well, would not disperse water as well. Even if your tires "look" good, trust me, they're not.
Thanks, the thing is I just have nothing to compare against.
But I already felt it losing traction on white stripes in a corner at slow speed without much lean angle at all, the front started losing traction.
And entering a roundabout, downshifting, I felt the rear losing traction.
So maybe that was due to the old tires?

I'm just a bit of a cheap-skate and don't want to waste a tire that looks like it has a lot of life left.
But I should probable trust you and "the experts", so I hope new tires will feel like I am glued to the asphalt!
 
I'm in the same situation. Bought my 2012 700X last year with 2100 miles on it. Tires were like new but 10 years old. I'm at 6200 miles on the original Metzler tires and they are about worn out. I decided to wear these out before I replace them because most of my miles are commuting to work, mostly highway miles. I don't trust them in the corners. My advice is if you're cheap like me and want to get some use out of them take it easy and don't push the older tires. Another issue is an emergency situation where the older tires won't stop as quickly, Looking forward to new tires. Good luck
 
So here are some high quality pictures, 11+ year old OEM Metzlers, about 9500km.
The close-up on that groove on the rear, that is dry rot I guess??

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