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Looks like the NC750 has been confirmed

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I have pinched this post from the UK forum. It was posted by user name 'Solidstate' and I give him full credit for this information.
The ABI list is I believe is a list of vehicles which manufacturers declare to be imported into the UK.
So the 700 is to be discontinued and replaced with a 750.
There is a NC750L already in production for training schools in Japan only and not for sale to the general public. It is a detuned 745cc engine with a 5 speed gearbox.

This is his post:-
I take it by now you've heard that the NC700 range is being discontinued and replaced with the NC750.
The latest ABI list (UK Vehicles) included the following new models.
Don't take the exact cc as gospel, these lists often get updated later...but the list shows the 700 as being discontinued and replaced with the 750.

MODEL. CC. TRANS. ABI CODE
NC 750XA 0750 Manual 80460528
NC 750XD 0750 Auto 80460529
NC 750SA 0750 Manual 80460530
NC 750SD 0750 Auto 80460531
INTEGRA 0750 Auto 80460532

No doubt the prices will be more on the new models.
 
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I have no secret agenda against, or loathing for an NC750X, let me just put that out straight away.

So having got that out of the way, what are people's opinions here, about that actual real world benefits of such a change?

If it were a "free lunch" change, sure, why not? But things are seldom all pro and no con.

-how many more horsepower is likely to be garnered by this (up to what, 80cc's at the most?) can 80cc's more *really* make that much of a difference?

-will this new power have zero or slightly negative effect on economy? What if there is no HP increase, but say a few LB.-Ft. more torque. Is that worth a price increase by itself?

-could it change the characteristics for better or worse? Tweaked redline limit or different gearing involved?

The only things that would sway me to want the 750 version would be:

-bigger frunk (greedy lol)
-bigger fuel tank
-no increase in weight (preferrably less)
-softer rev limiter
-more ground clearance/slightly more suspension travel
-even better fuel economy
-no price increase

I can't see a couple more horsepower or torque due to an 80cc displacement uppage, having the slightest effect on anything I would want to change about my NCX.
 
I could care less about a slightly larger engine. Up here in Canada, specifically Ontario, the max speed limit (legal :rolleyes:) is 100kph or 60mph. So more HP, more speed; really doesn't do anything for me. I moved to a NC700 from a CBR125 so I have plenty of power relative to that. My only concern is going to be if they make significant changes to body style, frame etc, will the aftermarket accessory market slowly die for the NC700? Only time will tell.

J...
 
5 speed ??? ...no way ..

I better buy another 700 and store it away !

I have pinched this post from the UK forum. It was posted by user name 'Solidstate' and I give him full credit for this information.
The ABI list is I believe is a list of vehicles which manufacturers declare to be imported into the UK.
So the 700 is to be discontinued and replaced with a 750.
There is a NC750L already in production for training schools in Japan only and not for sale to the general public. It is a detuned 745cc engine with a 5 speed gearbox.

This is his post:-
I take it by now you've heard that the NC700 range is being discontinued and replaced with the NC750.
The latest ABI list (UK Vehicles) included the following new models.
Don't take the exact cc as gospel, these lists often get updated later...but the list shows the 700 as being discontinued and replaced with the 750.

MODEL. CC. TRANS. ABI CODE
NC 750XA 0750 Manual 80460528
NC 750XD 0750 Auto 80460529
NC 750SA 0750 Manual 80460530
NC 750SD 0750 Auto 80460531
INTEGRA 0750 Auto 80460532

No doubt the prices will be more on the new models.
 
The move is nothing more than to change perception and re-position the NCX against other Honda products, as well as against competitors. It's a move to increase sales. The 750X will address some of the weaker points (power output). the bump in displace will likely add 15% to it's final output - Maybe close to 60HP. It will create a better value over the CB500X and be almost neck in neck with the Versys.

There is no free lunch. So I do expect the price to go up. The NCX manual is already value so a little price bump wouldn't hurt. I doubt anything else would change. Maybe the 750 would be tuned slightly different or re-design the pistons to increase rev?

All in all, I am perfectly happy with the 700x. There isn't going to be a drastic difference between the 700x and the 750x that would entice me for a trade in. Perhaps 4-5 years down the road when they release a brand new redesigned NC800X, then it'd be a different story.
 
Displacement creep has been with us since the first motorcycle was produced. "New" sells. There will no doubt be improvements and most likely the new machine will be better than the old one. It doesn't necessarily follow though that the improvement will come from the displacement increase. When BMW went from an 1100 to an 1150 Oilhead, the bike was much better to the point of being worth trading up for. But it was not the 50cc that made it worthwhile. It could be the same way here, or the difference could be miniscule. We'll wait and we'll see.

The fact that everyone is buzzing over the 50cc increase it proof that it is good marketing regardless of whether the product will be better. I am reminded of the household bleach market. Bleach was 5% sodium hypochlorite for years. Then Clorox came out with an improved "stronger" bleach that was 5.25% sodium hypochlorite. Everyone else had to follow, and there it stayed for many years (until the "concentrated bleach" marketing spitball came along - US market anyway).
 
When the NT650 Deauville went to the NT700 Deauville (actually 680cc, so a 30cc increase on the 650). The 30cc resulted in an extra 9bhp and an appropriate increase in torque. UK owners reported an increase in fuel consumption of about 5mpg compared to the original 650.
 
I guess I am just so happy with what I got, don't want any thing else. When you got steak at home, no need to go out for hamburgers. It would take an 850cc to 900cc adventure bike, that weights less that 475 lbs., with better gas mileage, with a shaft drive, and a seat height of 30" or less. I don't think there is a manufacture out there that would make such a thing right now.
Need a lot better market place before the manufactures will go back to the drawing table. Just be happy, and ride!6.jpg

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As far as replacement OEM and 3rd party parts continue to be available for the NC700, I don't care
 
Well as most of you know I'm not a fan of making things bigger just because the bigger is better mentality. My question is who is doing this re design, and how much effort was put into it? From what I heard, the ncx was one of three or four bikes designed by a French (?) Engineer who is highly respected.
Seems to me there had to be a reason he choose a 700 size in the first place. Is he involved? Or is this basically just a move to put 750 on the side of the bike?


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If the big bore parts will bolt onto my engine, terrific. If not, meh. I knew what I was buying when I bought the S, and for what I do with it it's a perfectly serviceable motorcycle. When the time comes to buy another bike, I doubt it will be an NC anyway, so Honda can do whatever they like with it.
 
I am quite happy with my 670ccs. I have done several trips and find the power enough for me. And I can ride all day for $20. in the US , $30 in Canada.
 
I like mine. But honestly... and we all must be honest here...

If I had the two side by side, I'd pick the more powerful engine... (that was THE MAJORITY's main complaint, and that's probably why Honda did it)...with more torque and Horsepower. (we are comparing only the NC's, I still want the NC)
....and it probably has similar MPG's....

We are not as restricted as the Canadians... in Cali, we can usually do about 80mph before the cops get involved...
 
I will enthusiastically RUN to my nearest dealer and purchase an NC750

....if they are still in production when I manage to wear out the bike I have now.
 
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Let's face it, until the 750 comes out everything is just speculation. Personally, I could be tempted by a larger bore, same or maybe even a little shorter stroke, and a red line about 1,000 rpm higher. I doubt I'd be tempted enough to trade in the 700 on one, but I would be tempted. When you get right down to it for light touring and commuting the 700 is hard to beat and I don't see how a 50 or 70 cc bump in displacement is going to magically transform it into a superbike. Actually if I were really wanting more performance I'd probably just keep the NC700 and pick up a second bike.

Bob
 
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