Revzilla review of 2021 NC750

[750dct]

Not a terribly flattering review from RevZilla … what a shock

2021 Honda NC750X DCT first ride review - RevZilla

It's not so much that the Honda NC750X is weird, it's just that it's not what you expected.

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Too much fancy/stupid wording and never got to the point on anything. There are better reviews out there.

 

[Lawyer4speed]

Here’s a review from CycleWorld as an added flavor: https://www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle-reviews/2021-honda-nc750x-dct/.

 

[LearnedButt]

Here’s a review from CycleWorld as an added flavor: https://www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle-reviews/2021-honda-nc750x-dct/.

At least this one he reviews the bike, as well as the DCT.

 

[Wheels]

Most of them prefer (bias) the hot, speedy bikes.
They 'say' they like/need shifting BUT drool over speed shifters, a contradiction.
I would tell them to ride their test loop in (sport) manual mode first then do it in auto mode.
The DCT gives you a better speed shifter / Recluse clutch.

 

[dduelin]

Here’s a review from CycleWorld as an added flavor: https://www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle-reviews/2021-honda-nc750x-dct/.

Any review that starts out regurgitating the "half a Jazz motor" story isn't getting any better.

 

[RobbieAG]

It's clear from the Zach's review that the bike is not for him, but overall I felt it was fair. He did rate it in his top 5 bikes (ahead of the Triumph Tiger 850), so he obviously thought quite highly of it.

 

[Gixus]

I find it interesting that most negative reviews of DCT focus on shifting as if the primary reason anyone rides a motorcycle is for the “exhilaration” of shifting the gearbox.

I think a manual is more “exhilarating “ than a DCT. If you ride with any gusto into a bend, changing down a couple of gears, cranking over, and then accelerating out is enjoyable.

On the other hand if you’re a sedate rider who does do a lot of slow commuting, then I see the benefits of the DCT. In my case I don’t commute, and all my riding is in the country.

The NC is in my opinion for the older sedate rider. Being a definately older and on occasion sedate rider, the NC appeals to me. But even at my age it would be unlikely that I’d own one if I didn’t have a much faster bike also in the garage.

 

[the Ferret]

I think a manual is more “exhilarating “ than a DCT. If you ride with any gusto into a bend, changing down a couple of gears, cranking over, and then accelerating out is enjoyable.

You do know that you can do that on a DCT in manual mode using the paddle shifters quicker and more seamlessly than you can on a manual clutch bike even with a quick shifter?

It can also be done in standard or sport mode utilizing the - button on the left grip instantaneously and seamlessly

 

[dduelin]

I think a manual is more “exhilarating “ than a DCT. If you ride with any gusto into a bend, changing down a couple of gears, cranking over, and then accelerating out is enjoyable.

On the other hand if you’re a sedate rider who does do a lot of slow commuting, then I see the benefits of the DCT. In my case I don’t commute, and all my riding is in the country.

The NC is in my opinion for the older sedate rider. Being a definately older and on occasion sedate rider, the NC appeals to me. But even at my age it would be unlikely that I’d own one if I didn’t have a much faster bike also in the garage.

Wow. I guess you can’t yet imagine riding DCT with gusto into a bend, changing down two gears, cranking over, and accelerating WOT on the edge of the tire, the gearbox changing up twice at redline without upsetting the suspension, unlike a manual.

 

[670cc]

I think a manual is more “exhilarating “ than a DCT. If you ride with any gusto into a bend, changing down a couple of gears, cranking over, and then accelerating out is enjoyable.

On the other hand if you’re a sedate rider who does do a lot of slow commuting, then I see the benefits of the DCT. In my case I don’t commute, and all my riding is in the country.

The NC is in my opinion for the older sedate rider. Being a definately older and on occasion sedate rider, the NC appeals to me. But even at my age it would be unlikely that I’d own one if I didn’t have a much faster bike also in the garage.

Umm, do you realize that the DCT, along with the ability to operate fully automatically, or auto with manual override, also has the option of running in full manual mode? The main way the DCT manual mode differs from a manual transmission is that the DCT will not let the engine lug or die; other than that you put it in the gear you want when you want, and it likely shifts faster that you can with your manual. Your comments suggest that you may not know how the Honda DCT operates or can be operated.

Also realize that the NC is attracting young riders as well as the “older sedate rider”. The sport and hobby of motorcycles is dying and the NC along with DCT might help the industry in attracting new riders, young and old.

 

[the Ferret]

Umm, do you realize that the DCT, along with the ability to operate fully automatically, or auto with manual override, also has the option of running in full manual mode? The main way the DCT manual mode differs from a manual transmission is that the DCT will not let the engine lug or die; other than that you put it in the gear you want when you want, and it likely shifts faster that you can with your manual. Your comments suggest that you may not know how the Honda DCT operates or can be operated.

In all fairness, those who have not ridden a DCT "for a while" (as @dduelin advised me when I got mine) cannot comprehend what the gearbox is actually capable of. I'm 9 months, 11,000 miles in and still learning myself lol

I was told I'd still be learning after a year, and that appears to be true.

 

[670cc]

In all fairness, those who have not ridden a DCT "for a while" (as @dduelin advised me when I got mine) cannot comprehend what the gearbox is actually capable of. I'm 9 months, 11,000 miles in and still learning myself lol

I was told I'd still be learning after a year, and that appears to be true.

I’ll bet you know a lot more about the DCT than someone that doesn’t own one (me included).

 

[the Ferret]

I’ll bet you know a lot more about the DCT than someone that doesn’t own one (me included).

That's a fair statement lol

 

[Deleted member 10242]

I thought Zach did a pretty fair job in his ride review here. He had it in his top 5 Daily Ride bikes. We know it's not a bike for everyone and DCT would be a subset of that. For me, it just works and works well at that.

 

[shinøbigami]

Umm, do you realize that the DCT, along with the ability to operate fully automatically, or auto with manual override, also has the option of running in full manual mode? The main way the DCT manual mode differs from a manual transmission is that the DCT will not let the engine lug or die; other than that you put it in the gear you want when you want, and it likely shifts faster that you can with your manual. Your comments suggest that you may not know how the Honda DCT operates or can be operated.

Also realize that the NC is attracting young riders as well as the “older sedate rider”. The sport and hobby of motorcycles is dying and the NC along with DCT might help the industry in attracting new riders, young and old.

I’m curious, on my 2021 DCT, in full manual mode it’s still not actually fully manual, it will automatically downshift when slowing down at certain speeds all the way down to 1st if I come to a stop. Is that how yours is as well or is there another setting to turn off auto downshifting? Agree that the paddle shifting is quicker and more seamless than what anyone can do with a manual clutch, it just takes a little getting used to.

 

[670cc]

I’m curious, on my 2021 DCT, in full manual mode it’s still not actually fully manual, it will automatically downshift when slowing down at certain speeds all the way down to 1st if I come to a stop. Is that how yours is as well or is there another setting to turn off auto downshifting? Agree that the paddle shifting is quicker and more seamless than what anyone can do with a manual clutch, it just takes a little getting used to.

I pointed out earlier that the DCT in manual mode will not let the engine lug or die. You are correct; the DCT actually will not operate fully manual. It will ignore shift requests that are outside the operating parameters of the engine, or it take over when the RPM is too low. As far as I know, it also will not allow you to shift to neutral while you are traveling at speed (or will it?), or allow you to manually control the clutches.

 

[shinøbigami]

I pointed out earlier that the DCT in manual mode will not let the engine lug or die. You are correct; the DCT actually will not operate fully manual. It will ignore shift requests that are outside the operating parameters of the engine, or it take over when the RPM is too low. As far as I know, it also will not allow you to shift to neutral while you are traveling at speed (or will it?), or allow you to manually control the clutches.

I my experience, no it will not let you shift to neutral over ~2mph.

 

[670cc]

I my experience, no it will not let you shift to neutral over ~2mph.

Ok. With the DCT there is no way to disengage the engine at speed, e.g. if you wanted to temporarily remove your right hand from the throttle, there is no way to coast without engine braking. Also, if you accidentally hit the kill switch, can you simply restart the engine, or must you first come to a stop?

BTW, I own a manual transmission. I put 2012 NC700X (MT) in my signature to help people know what I ride. With the wide variety of NC models from over the years, I suggest everyone identify their bike in their signature, so in a general sense, replies can be more accurate or applicable.

 

[750dct]

I my experience, no it will not let you shift to neutral over ~2mph.

That makes sense, why would you want to? Have you ever shifted any automatic car into neutral while moving? It sounds like another good safety feature to me.

 

[dduelin]

Ok. With the DCT there is no way to disengage the engine at speed, e.g. if you wanted to temporarily remove your right hand from the throttle, there is no way to coast without engine braking. Also, if you accidentally hit the kill switch, can you simply restart the engine, or must you first come to a stop?

No way to coast without engine braking. I've not missed it [coasting w/o engine braking, never really thought about it] but I did invest $20 in a GoCruise manual throttle lock so it is possible to remove the right hand and hold a set speed.

If I recall correctly if you accidentally hit the kill switch you flip it back ON and the engine picks back up. No need to engage the electric starter. There is sufficient drag through the gearbox to turn over the engine and maintain oil pressure because the gear box will downshift as the bike coasts to a stop.