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2020 dct clicking

I never ride in D. I have almost 16,000 miles on it. It should know me by now!

16,000 miles is suggesting chain wear to me. I had a click in my chain at 15,000kms which was only audible in the lower gears. I replaced the chain and it disappeared. That was on my former 2012 NC700X
 
I listened carefully to mine on today's ride. I can hear the gears changing "sometimes" but other than that no clicking sounds I can discern.
 
I put my bike on the center stand and put it in gear and started it. While I can hear the chain, it is not the sound I'm talking about.
Good weather tomorrow. I may do a drive by the dealer and see if the mechanic can tell me anything.
 
I put my bike on the center stand and put it in gear and started it. While I can hear the chain, it is not the sound I'm talking about.
Good weather tomorrow. I may do a drive by the dealer and see if the mechanic can tell me anything.
Did you perform the DCT initialisation?
 
I put my bike on the center stand and put it in gear and started it. While I can hear the chain, it is not the sound I'm talking about.
Good weather tomorrow. I may do a drive by the dealer and see if the mechanic can tell me anything.
Careful doing this!! It may cause the check engine light to come on! I have 2 NC's, a 2013 and a 2016. I have had the 2013 twice as long and have done this many times with zero issue for stuff like lubing the chain. I then did it a few times on my 2016 to lube the chain and one day the darn check engine light came on and would not go off. I had to buy a sketchy adapter plug on Amazon and hook my OBDII scan tool up to it to clear the code it was throwing and it hasn't came back on since. Not sure why I did it several times on different dates prior and it never came on until that one day. Just letting you know.
 
"...there is a clicking sound in the lower gears that has been there since the beginning..."

Ok point taken. However as we all know these OEM chains are poor quality. On both my 250 and former 700X there were tight spots in the chain from the getgo. If I recall also the countershaft sprocket is a loose fit on the shaft. If dry the sprocket could be moving on the splines and coupled with a tight link perhaps causing a knock or click like what was happening on my former 700. Perhaps if the chain and countershaft splines were liberally lubed and then ride to see if it makes a difference.
 
Good news! All you "its the chain" people were right!
I cleaned and lubed it before doing anything else and had no sounds.

For extra assurance, I did the reintiallisation too.
Thank you Big Birdfor the lengthy explanation on how to do it. I have the shop manual !
It's probably my imagination but it seems to be shifting better.
I have a trip to Georgia in April (from Louisiana) and I feel much better about it.
There will be a new chain on the NC before the trip.
Thanks again everyone!
 
Thank you Big Birdfor the lengthy explanation on how to do it. I have the shop manual !
It's probably my imagination but it seems to be shifting better.
Not likely your imagination.
I did the initialization on my '20 after the first 3k km.
BIG difference in shift smoothness at lower rpm, no noticeable change in shift smoothness when accelerating hard as it was already undetectably smooth.
Less clicking and tapping noises when low rpm shifting after the initialization as well.

To me this is one of the best, cheapest, and easiest maintenance items you can do on your DCT NC, or for that matter any DCT powersport product made by Honda.
This one should have been in the owner's manual, instead of buried deep in the service manual, but I understand why Honda would never put it in the owner's manual.
In fact, in the service manual, it's only referred to if the clutches have been changed or if the DCT has required internal servicing.
 
Not likely your imagination.
I did the initialization on my '20 after the first 3k km.
BIG difference in shift smoothness at lower rpm, no noticeable change in shift smoothness when accelerating hard as it was already undetectably smooth.
Less clicking and tapping noises when low rpm shifting after the initialization as well.

To me this is one of the best, cheapest, and easiest maintenance items you can do on your DCT NC, or for that matter any DCT powersport product made by Honda.
This one should have been in the owner's manual, instead of buried deep in the service manual, but I understand why Honda would never put it in the owner's manual.
In fact, in the service manual, it's only referred to if the clutches have been changed or if the DCT has required internal servicing.
I'm glad itlives got good results based on bigbird's advice.

Since this clutch initialization routine seems to consistently give good results, I would go further to say that Honda should not have needed to put it in the manual, as they rather should have incorporated it into an automated routine run periodically or continously by the power train computer.

My car's DCT has run over 40,000 miles with shifting just as smooth as when the clutch was new. No periodic clutch intialization procedure was needed. Then again, it's my opinion that automobile engines and transmissions are lately more sophisticated (and expensive) that that found on motorcycles. It is what it is.
 
I'm glad itlives got good results based on bigbird's advice.

Since this clutch initialization routine seems to consistently give good results, I would go further to say that Honda should not have needed to put it in the manual, as they rather should have incorporated it into an automated routine run periodically or continously by the power train computer.

My car's DCT has run over 40,000 miles with shifting just as smooth as when the clutch was new. No periodic clutch intialization procedure was needed. Then again, it's my opinion that automobile engines and transmissions are lately more sophisticated (and expensive) that that found on motorcycles. It is what it is.
I was over on the ctx700 forum for a while....someone was having an issue with their DCT similiar to this, I suggested the re-initialization process and I got FLAMED for the suggestion...Their loss....my Prius C has what is called an E-CVT (no belts)....The electric motors and gas engine are connected to a planetary gear set which is always engaged, and there is no shifting....and yep, there is no shifting....never feel a gear change.
 
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