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Interesting Observation From the UK Site Regarding Shifter Pin

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This thread appears to be originated by a bike mechanic in the UK. Seems he is observing that shifter pins are failing in bikes owned by users who fail to shift to N before shutdown.

 
This thread appears to be originated by a bike mechanic in the UK. ...
The mechanic in the UK said what his client said:
"the pin only fails if you ignore Honda's advice to select neutral ...".
Might as well say that:
"the pin fails because he is drinking decaf coffee in the morning...".
From a mechanical point of view, this is the same kind of nonsense.
 
The mechanic in the UK said what his client said:
"the pin only fails if you ignore Honda's advice to select neutral ...".
Might as well say that:
"the pin fails because he is drinking decaf coffee in the morning...".
From a mechanical point of view, this is the same kind of nonsense.

Could be. I don't know. Just sharing.
 
Could be. I don't know. Just sharing.
No offense, but sharing wrong technical information does as much harm as creating such information.
I think it would be better if such stories did not appear here.
 
No offense, but sharing wrong technical information does as much harm as creating such information.
I think it would be better if such stories did not appear here.
No offense taken. A few things. First, the moral of the message is to respect Honda's guidance to shift to neutral before shutting down the bike. There is zero risk of anyone having a less than optimal outcome in following this guidance. Where do you see the risk of harm in following that guidance? Second, if you do or do not shift to neutral before shutting down your shifter pin may break; maybe not. Third, the OP in the UK was relating that this was his observation, not an assertion that it was the causation, but rather a point of consideration. Fourth, this is not technical information...it's an observation by a bike mechanic in the UK on the internet. Finally, unsure what your qualifications are to dismiss any information, technical or otherwise, as correct or incorrect.
 
I try and pop it into neutral every time, but every great once in awhile, like once today, I pulled into a restaurant, and without thinking, put the sidestand down before hitting the neutral button, which of course puts it into neutral, but not how I wanted it to lol. Dang it.

Wonder if the 21 has the new hardened pins, or how many times it takes to mess it up.
 
No offense taken. A few things. First, the moral of the message is to respect Honda's guidance to shift to neutral before shutting down the bike. There is zero risk of anyone having a less than optimal outcome in following this guidance. Where do you see the risk of harm in following that guidance? Second, if you do or do not shift to neutral before shutting down your shifter pin may break; maybe not. Third, the OP in the UK was relating that this was his observation, not an assertion that it was the causation, but rather a point of consideration. Fourth, this is not technical information...it's an observation by a bike mechanic in the UK on the internet. Finally, unsure what your qualifications are to dismiss any information, technical or otherwise, as correct or incorrect.
From the link you gave here you can read that: "davebike ...guess from talking to customers is the pin only fails if you ignore Honda's advice to select netural...", etc. It means that Dave came to this not from his own professional experience, but on the basis of information received from customers.
A mechanic experienced with Honda motorcycles with DCT would say that the advice given in the owner's manual by Honda would prevent you from having an occasional hard time starting the motorcycle. (because our, Honda's, design is flawed ... however easy to fix ... if we wanted to).
As for my qualifications in this matter, it would be pointless to give them because you are already inclined not to believe it. And rightly so, because what would prevent me from saying that I am a rocket scientist. We are anonymous here without too much self-control.
 
From the link you gave here you can read that: "davebike ...guess from talking to customers is the pin only fails if you ignore Honda's advice to select netural...", etc. It means that Dave came to this not from his own professional experience, but on the basis of information received from customers.
A mechanic experienced with Honda motorcycles with DCT would say that the advice given in the owner's manual by Honda would prevent you from having an occasional hard time starting the motorcycle. (because our, Honda's, design is flawed ... however easy to fix ... if we wanted to).
As for my qualifications in this matter, it would be pointless to give them because you are already inclined not to believe it. And rightly so, because what would prevent me from saying that I am a rocket scientist. We are anonymous here without too much self-control.
Nope. I'm not inclined to disbelieve you at all. And I don't disagree with you that unsound technical advice could cause some problems. I also agree with you that this is the internet and most folks know that. So, I would presume knowing that, an owner would consider information received from untrusted sources like you, me, and the anonymous mechanic in the UK before acting. That said, it is not unsound technical advice to follow the manufacturer's instructions to shift to neutral when shutting down. That's all that the post suggests.
 
... That said, it is not unsound technical advice to follow the manufacturer's instructions to shift to neutral when shutting down. That's all that the post suggests.
This is not what your post suggests.
In the first sentence of your post you write:
"... mechanic in the UK. Seems he is observing that shifter pins are failing in bikes owned by users who fail to shift to N before shutdown."
And this is total B.S.
And of course it is recommended to follow the advice from the owner's manuals but the reason for this is different.
But now this discussion is pointless.
You can believe what you like for your own use.
 
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