Seat Concepts Seats

[bigbird]

There's a thread on here.
I’ll link you to it later (supper shortly)
In that thread is a link to download the file for printing.
Then just Google 3D printing services near you.
I paid $13 to have the riser printed.
All the specs are in the file as well as the details for type of plastic to be used and the infill.

Okay here's the thread: https://nc700-forum.com/threads/seat-slope-mod-by-smalllabtinyfab.20251/
And here's the link to the actual file: https://www.printables.com/model/173451-nc700x-seat-slope-mod
Click on the orange coloured download box.
Make sure and give the printer these instructions from the description:
"Print in PETG or other non-PLA material with 60%+ infill."

 

[mzflorida]

There's a thread on here.
I’ll link you to it later (supper shortly)
In that thread is a link to download the file for printing.
Then just Google 3D printing services near you.
I paid $13 to have the riser printed.
All the specs are in the file as well as the details for type of plastic to be used and the infill.

Okay here's the thread: https://nc700-forum.com/threads/seat-slope-mod-by-smalllabtinyfab.20251/
And here's the link to the actual file: https://www.printables.com/model/173451-nc700x-seat-slope-mod
Click on the orange coloured download box.
Make sure and give the printer these instructions from the description:
"Print in PETG or other non-PLA material with 60%+ infill."

Very generous! A little advice, you should eat slower (that is a joke referring to supper a few minutes ago!). Thank you very much BB!! I'll give it a shot.

 

[bigbird]

Very generous! A little advice, you should eat slower (that is a joke referring to supper a few minutes ago!). Thank you very much BB!! I'll give it a shot.

I delayed supper, just for you! LOL
You're most welcome.
Good luck with it.

 

[Rabbit]

Today was the first day that I have had the time to put any real miles on the Seat Concepts saddle. I did 120 miles, 45 -75 MPH, stock suspension. 6' 02" ~230 Lbs. It substantially removed the forward slope issue that was presented by the OEM saddle. It was somewhat more comfortable than the OEM seat but nothing remarkable. Who knows? Maybe it will break in. I was able to ride longer than I could have with the OEM but similar discomfort eventually did set in. Obviously, most people really enjoy their Seat Concepts as it has good reviews and customer feedback. For me, initially at least, it's not that good. Anyhow, more miles to come and hopefully it breaks in. My Corbin seats were comfy from day one and improved over time; that is the frame of reference I am drawing from.

I loved my Corbin on my Royal Enfield but I saw mixed reviews on the Corbin for our bike.

 

[670cc]

Today was the first day that I have had the time to put any real miles on the Seat Concepts saddle. I did 120 miles, 45 -75 MPH, stock suspension. 6' 02" ~230 Lbs. It substantially removed the forward slope issue that was presented by the OEM saddle. It was somewhat more comfortable than the OEM seat but nothing remarkable. Who knows? Maybe it will break in. I was able to ride longer than I could have with the OEM but similar discomfort eventually did set in. Obviously, most people really enjoy their Seat Concepts as it has good reviews and customer feedback. For me, initially at least, it's not that good. Anyhow, more miles to come and hopefully it breaks in. My Corbin seats were comfy from day one and improved over time; that is the frame of reference I am drawing from.

I had a Corbin on my ST1100. It was better than the stock Honda seat, but I doubt I’ll ever buy a Corbin seat again. Too hard, thin, and low, and I hate that they insist on sewing their name on the side.

 

[mzflorida]

I had a Corbin on my ST1100. It was better than the stock Honda seat, but I doubt I’ll ever buy a Corbin seat again. Too hard, thin, and low, and I hate that they insist on sewing their name on the side.

It is firm but none of the seats I have had were hard (subjective, I know). None were either low or thin. As a matter of fact, the exact opposite was true for the VFR and CTX. I'd have to presume there are substantial differences from bike model to bike model. As Corbin and Seat Concepts are seemingly both successful companies, with loyal customer bases, opinions on their products must be mostly positive. But they clearly each have disappointed customers like you with Corbin and me with Seat Concepts (so far).

Here is a pic of the CTX and it is definitely not thin. Here is a link if you are interested in VFR comparisons. https://www.crosstourer.com/index.php/topic,7500.msg73988.html#msg73988

 

[bigbird]

The Corbin on the CTX looks pretty darn plush and thick to me.

 

[mzflorida]

The Corbin on the CTX looks pretty darn plush and thick to me.

It was definitely comfortable. My wife (5' 11', 135) did 500-mile days with zero complaints. I rode it 200 miles in one day with no discomfort. Both seats did push me back which was a benefit to me. When I think of plush, I think of memory foam. It is nothing like that. It's firm but gives and does improve in comfort over time, in my opinion. I'm hoping the Seat Concepts also breaks in and in conjunction with the mod you helped me with that it becomes better. I'm not eager to spend $1K on a Corbin.

 

[2wheels4me]

I'm hoping the Seat Concepts also breaks in and in conjunction with the mod you helped me with that it becomes better. I'm not eager to spend $1K on a Corbin.

Following…my failed Airhawk excursion has me looking for options and we are about the same build so I’m curious how the seat concept pans out. What was difficult about assembly also and how does the new cover attach, staples?

 

[mzflorida]

Following…my failed Airhawk excursion has me looking for options and we are about the same build so I’m curious how the seat concept pans out. What was difficult about assembly also and how does the new cover attach, staples?

I'll put a couple of hundred more on this weekend. It was just a very fussy installation of the cover. Give a tug here then get a wrinkle there, all looks straight then another wrinkle. Just very tedious if you are particular. Then, I went out today to check on something on the bike and I saw another wrinkle after having it stretched perfectly. Not a huge deal but I don't want to fuss around with it for the next ten rides (you get my drift). The rear was easy while the front took for stinking ever to get straight. It should not be this challenging. Yes, I used T50 1/4" Stainless steel staples applied with a pneumatic stapler with the compressor set at 110.

 

[2wheels4me]

I'll put a couple of hundred more on this weekend. Yes, I used T50 1/4" Stainless steel staples applied with a pneumatic stapler with the compressor set at 110.

Looking forward to an update. As for the staples I’d have to see if someone local could do it. I had a local upholstery shop try to fix the slope and modified the seat with gel but neither helped much and I gave up with them. I’d let them attach a cover though as they did get the stock back on good.

 

[mzflorida]

Looking forward to an update. As for the staples I’d have to see if someone local could do it. I had a local upholstery shop try to fix the slope and modified the seat with gel but neither helped much and I gave up with them. I’d let them attach a cover though as they did get the stock back on good.

In my opinion, that would be a really good move to have the upholsterer install the cover. It is important to emphasize that I am an outlier with my initial negative opinion on the Seat Concepts saddle. I was hard pressed to find a negative review. That said, I know when something is uncomfortable for me, and right now it is only a slight improvement over stock. I don't want to discourage anyone from trying the saddle if they feel it will meet their needs.

 

[2wheels4me]

In my opinion, that would be a really good move to have the upholsterer install the cover. It is important to emphasize that I am an outlier with my initial negative opinion on the Seat Concepts saddle. I was hard pressed to find a negative review. That said, I know when something is uncomfortable for me, and right now it is only a slight improvement over stock. I don't want to discourage anyone from trying the saddle if they feel it will meet their needs.

Is your initial negative opinion based off of not enough time in the seat concept yet or it’s not a Corbin?

I can hardly make it my 30 mi commute to work without wanting to sell the bike at this point lol. Love everything else about it. 120 mi range per break would be a huge improvement for me as I would probably want to take a break before that range. What was your patience/range with the stock seat?

 

[bigbird]

I can hardly make it my 30 mi commute to work without wanting to sell the bike at this point lol. Love everything else about it. 120 mi range per break would be a huge improvement for me as I would probably want to take a break before that range. What was your patience/range with the stock seat?

I have the Seat Concepts (SC) on a '20 NC750X.
I initially suffered from the forward slope issue with the OEM seat.
I was constantly pushing myself back away from the frunk every few minutes.
I couldn't ride more than 30 minutes without grimacing in discomfort over the pressure on the front of my pelvis and junk LOL.
The SC helped somewhat; it raised the front of the seat by about 0.5".
However, that didn't solve the slope problem entirely.
The SC is thicker and has more padding than the stock seat, so that felt good.
The solution for me was the mod of raising the front of the seat by about 1.5".
That mod has been talked about a lot and if you look at my post #21 in this thread, I go into full detail of how to go about getting the slope mod done via 3D printer.
Now, the combo of SC and slope mod makes the seat unnoticeable over a 2 hour ride without my having to dismount, or stand up on the pegs, or slide backward on the seat, or try to adjust my underwear and junk while riding.
So, don't expect the SC to accomplish anything miraculous; it won't do much except make the stock seat a bit more comfortable.
But try the slope mod in addition, and I think you'll be pleased.
I forgot to mention I also have the Knight Industries lowered foot pegs ( about 30 mm lower than stock).
They bring my feet more forward, lessening the knee bend, which in turn may very well help the seat slope issue.
I did rotate my handlebars slightly towards me, but didn't need risers.
The handlebar reach and height are now perfect, and I'm actually more comfortable on my NC750 than I was on my Goldwing F6B.

 

[670cc]

When it comes to seat comfort, I think the seat design is one thing, but the entire seat, handlebar, and foot peg triangle is a factor in butt comfort. I found with my inseam and arm length, I needed more handlebar rise and pull back in order to sit squarely on the seat without my hips rolled forward. I now have 3.2 inches of rise (4 inches would be about right), and that greatly improved seat comfort. I would move the foot pegs forward for a more touring oriented posture if I could, but that would’ve a difficult mod.

 

[2wheels4me]

I have the Seat Concepts (SC) on a '20 NC750X.
I initially suffered from the forward slope issue with the OEM seat.
I was constantly pushing myself back away from the frunk every few minutes.
I couldn't ride more than 30 minutes without grimacing in discomfort over the pressure on the front of my pelvis and junk LOL.
The SC helped somewhat; it raised the front of the seat by about 0.5".
However, that didn't solve the slope problem entirely.
The SC is thicker and has more padding than the stock seat, so that felt good.
The solution for me was the mod of raising the front of the seat by about 1.5".
That mod has been talked about a lot and if you look at my post #21 in this thread, I go into full detail of how to go about getting the slope mod done via 3D printer.
Now, the combo of SC and slope mod makes the seat unnoticeable over a 2 hour ride without my having to dismount, or stand up on the pegs, or slide backward on the seat, or try to adjust my underwear and junk while riding.
So, don't expect the SC to accomplish anything miraculous; it won't do much except make the stock seat a bit more comfortable.
But try the slope mod in addition, and I think you'll be pleased.
I forgot to mention I also have the Knight Industries lowered foot pegs ( about 30 mm lower than stock).
They bring my feet more forward, lessening the knee bend, which in turn may very well help the seat slope issue.
I did rotate my handlebars slightly towards me, but didn't need risers.
The handlebar reach and height are now perfect, and I'm actually more comfortable on my NC750 than I was on my Goldwing F6B.

Glossed over but should have mentioned I have the slope mod, just the chair bumper with the pre drilled Lsa metal deal I think it was. I just recently did the handle bar risers up and back some which helped the ergos a lot but the pressure point of the tailbone to seat still remains. The Airhawk didn’t help the tailbone if at all for me and crammed the junk inner thigh area placed too far forward and was hard to find a good spot and stay there which is why I returned it. You give me hope on the SC though with your usage as adding pegs or changing handlebar placement wouldn’t be that difficult or expensive if the seat itself was bearable.

At this point I’m at going SC for less $$$ and bike downtime, or splurging for a laam seat and sucking up shipping it out and the wait.

 

[2wheels4me]

When it comes to seat comfort, I think the seat design is one thing, but the entire seat, handlebar, and foot peg triangle is a factor in butt comfort. I found with my inseam and arm length, I needed more handlebar rise and pull back in order to sit squarely on the seat without my hips rolled forward. I now have 3.2 inches of rise (4 inches would be about right), and that greatly improved seat comfort. I would move the foot pegs forward for a more touring oriented posture if I could, but that would’ve a difficult mod.

The triangle definitely matters, risers work wonders. Can’t imagine the bind my cables would be in with that much rise. I was able to release two clips to make my current ones work but anymore I’d probably be looking at ordering a cable stretcher

 

[bigbird]

Glossed over but should have mentioned I have the slope mod, just the chair bumper with the pre drilled Lsa metal deal I think it was.

I had also used the chair bumpers and bent tie strap.
It was just as effective as the 3D printed plastic platform, but didn't look anywhere near as professional.

 

[mzflorida]

Is your initial negative opinion based off of not enough time in the seat concept yet or it’s not a Corbin?

I can hardly make it my 30 mi commute to work without wanting to sell the bike at this point lol. Love everything else about it. 120 mi range per break would be a huge improvement for me as I would probably want to take a break before that range. What was your patience/range with the stock seat?

EDIT: Forgot the time element answer on OEM. For me, I was not comfortable from the moment I mounted the bike but noticeable discomfort set in in about 25 minutes or so.

The negative opinion is based entirely on the performance of this seat while riding. I'm comparing Seat Concepts to my experience with a Corbin and OEM to Seat Concepts. The Corbin was comfortable from day one on all three bikes I put them on. The OEM on the NC700, NC750, CTX700, and VFR1200X were all uncomfortable (the CTX OEM being the best out of the three) from day one. The SC was better than OEM but discomfort began settling in at about 40 minutes into the ride.

Funnily enough, the OEM seat on my Xmax 300 was really very good. I changed it to Yamaha's European comfort seat though as it moves the rider back a bit, with a side benefit of being more aesthetically pleasing (IMO). The Euro, which i think is standard over there, seat is insanely comfortable.

 

[2wheels4me]

The negative opinion is based entirely on the performance of this seat while riding. I'm comparing Seat Concepts to my experience with a Corbin and OEM to Seat Concepts. The Corbin was comfortable from day one on all three bikes I put them on. The OEM on the NC700, NC750, CTX700, and VFR1200X were all uncomfortable (the CTX OEM being the best out of the three) from day one. The SC was better than OEM but discomfort began settling in at about 40 minutes into the ride.

Funnily enough, the OEM seat on my Xmax 300 was really very good. I changed it to Yamaha's European comfort seat though as it moves the rider back a bit, with a side benefit of being more aesthetically pleasing (IMO). The Euro, which i think is standard over there, seat is insanely comfortable.

Doesn’t sound too promising. I’m really leaning towards a Laam the more I think about it as other options don’t seem to be comparing for what I’m looking for and I’d rather spend more and really enjoy it than continue to run through different options.