2025 Model Updates

[nc750dct]

Actually, the automatics sell more than the manuals, but I don't understand why it's not a hot seller in the U.S. We tend to think everyone thinks like we do but I guess not.

 

[670cc]

Actually, the automatics sell more than the manuals, but I don't understand why it's not a hot seller in the U.S. We tend to think everyone thinks like we do but I guess not.

It’s pretty easy now to sell more automatics when the manual is not imported.

In the early NC days, selling the auto in the USA was a bit of a struggle. Honda then raised the price of the manual and lowered the price of the automatic to reduce the original $2000 price spread. Some people that bought autos did so to get ABS, which in the US could not then be had on a manual. From stories heard and read, those that bought DCT mainly for ABS never regretted having the automatic bundled in.

 

[nc750dct]

Pretty easy to sell more automatics when the manual is not imported.

They have been selling more autos.

 

[the Ferret]

I chose the DCT on purpose, had to have my dealer order it as he didn't stock one, and am glad I did. I still get to ride my manual CB 1100 whenever I feel like shifting, but the DCT has been so enjoyable I'm finding I enjoy shifting less and less. I have no illusions that riding a manual makes me somehow more of a "man", or more of a motorcycle enthusiast. Even at 74 years old I still ride many more days/miles a year (like 6-7x) than the average motorcyclist. I'm getting ready to head out riding for the 334th day this year in a couple of hours, and I'll be choosing to ride the DCT. I KNOW how to shift, I just choose not to most of the time.

 

[670cc]

They have been selling more autos.

That motorcycle automatics have become accepted shows we’re ready for the next step: removing the transmission altogether, e.g. going to single speed electric motor drive.

Manual transmission: Very high operator interaction, moderately complex machinery, many moving parts.
Automatic transmission: Low operator interaction, highly complex machinery, more moving parts
Electric drive: No operator interaction required, simple machinery, few moving parts

 

[the Ferret]

You may be right and that may be what they are setting us up for. I would have no issue with that if they work out the charging and range bugs

 

[670cc]

You may be right and that may be what they are setting us up for. I would have no issue with that if they work out the charging and range bugs

Yes, those are the final challenges. Greatly reduced maintenance, very high efficiency (over 300 MPGe), simplicity of operation, ability to fuel at home, low noise, low vibration, no odor, no risk of CO poisoning, and instant power delivery have all been sorted out. There are so, so many positive advantages in EVs, yet people focus on range as a show stopper, even though the current ranges may be adequate for daily use. Range is good for me, and with my ability to charge at home or campgrounds, I have little use for public charging. Charging an EV at home is more convenient and less time consuming than filling gas cars at gas stations.

Engineering a doubling of battery energy density would certainly help. There is little incentive to build out a public charging network if people don’t adopt the technology. It’s a chicken or the egg problem. So that, along with fighting fossil fuel industry propaganda, causes progress to be slow. I’m glad I’m in now, instead of sitting around waiting.

Sorry to divert the thread, but when I see progress in motorcycle automatic transmission acceptance, I see it as a stepping stone toward getting rid of the transmission altogether. Working towards simplification makes more sense than adopting more complicated machinery.

 

[the Ferret]

The range of current electrics would satisfy MOST of my daily riding needs, but some days I ride further than other days, and I don't want to be limited, or roll to a stop and have to call a tow truck because I decided to see where this particular road goes and all of a sudden run out of juice. It's not like AAA can deliver a charge out in the middle of nowhere (or can they?) like they can bring you a couple gallons of gas, or find a stranger willing to give you a ride and back to a gas station.

I consider the range of an electric 1/2 of what they say, because I not only want to go out, but I also want to get back home. So, if the stated range is 100 miles, I can only go 50 miles from home without fear of running out of battery, or using some of that battery range to hopefully find a charger before I run out.

At least with an automatic motorcycle (and they will all be making a version of them in 2025 except maybe Harley and Indian lol) you can still use the already established fuel filling stations which are everywhere in populated areas (a little less so in unpopulated areas out west)

 

[670cc]

The range of current electrics would satisfy MOST of my daily riding needs, but some days I ride further than other days, and I don't want to be limited, or roll to a stop and have to call a tow truck because I decided to see where this particular road goes and all of a sudden run out of juice. It's not like AAA can deliver a charge out in the middle of nowhere (or can they?) like they can bring you a couple gallons of gas, or find a stranger willing to give you a ride and back to a gas station.

I consider the range of an electric 1/2 of what they say, because I not only want to go out, but I also want to get back home. So, if the stated range is 100 miles, I can only go 50 miles from home without fear of running out of battery, or using some of that battery range to hopefully find a charger before I run out.

At least with an automatic motorcycle (and they will all be making a version of them in 2025 except maybe Harley and Indian lol) you can still use the already established fuel filling stations which are everywhere in populated areas (a little less so in unpopulated areas out west)

Good points, all of them. Basically, people are willing to put up with all the negative attributes of internal combustion engines until the EV range and fueling convenience issues are solved.

I now have plenty of engines that, if I want, will last me my expected life span. My goal at this point is to never buy another gasoline engine, but rather to go forward with newer technology.

Back on thread topic, with one day left in the year, there is still no 2025 NC750X on the American Honda web site . However, no 2025 Goldwing is shown either, and I don’t expect the Goldwing to be discontinued.

 

[Lee_0123]

I originally bought my '21 NC750X DCT just because I was curious about the DCT. At 38K miles I wrecked the bike by hitting a deer. I liked the '21 NC750X enough to replace the bike with a '24 NC750X DCT.

Had Bambi not wrecked my '21 I would have bought a Livewire One this spring. I'm curious about electric bikes. Having to buy a replacement bike and paying for a wedding this October rules out the Livewire One for now.

The frunk on the '24 is slightly smaller than the frunk on my '21. The cover for accessing the battery on my '21 was smooth. The cover for the '24 has a ridge on it that protrudes into the frunk. My Bell SRT is now a tighter fit.

 

[nc750dct]

I originally bought my '21 NC750X DCT just because I was curious about the DCT. At 38K miles I wrecked the bike by hitting a deer. I liked the '21 NC750X enough to replace the bike with a '24 NC750X DCT.

Had Bambi not wrecked my '21 I would have bought a Livewire One this spring. I'm curious about electric bikes. Having to buy a replacement bike and paying for a wedding this October rules out the Livewire One for now.

The frunk on the '24 is slightly smaller than the frunk on my '21. The cover for accessing the battery on my '21 was smooth. The cover for the '24 has a ridge on it that protrudes into the frunk. My Bell SRT is now a tighter fit.

mODIFY IT

 

[dduelin]

Yes, those are the final challenges. Greatly reduced maintenance, very high efficiency (over 300 MPGe), simplicity of operation, ability to fuel at home, low noise, low vibration, no odor, no risk of CO poisoning, and instant power delivery have all been sorted out. There are so, so many positive advantages in EVs, yet people focus on range as a show stopper, even though the current ranges may be adequate for daily use. Range is good for me, and with my ability to charge at home or campgrounds, I have little use for public charging. Charging an EV at home is more convenient and less time consuming than filling gas cars at gas stations.

Engineering a doubling of battery energy density would certainly help. There is little incentive to build out a public charging network if people don’t adopt the technology. It’s a chicken or the egg problem. So that, along with fighting fossil fuel industry propaganda, causes progress to be slow. I’m glad I’m in now, instead of sitting around waiting.

Sorry to divert the thread, but when I see progress in motorcycle automatic transmission acceptance, I see it as a stepping stone toward getting rid of the transmission altogether. Working towards simplification makes more sense than adopting more complicated machinery.

I rode 444 miles yesterday and 423 the day before on an out and back ride. I do rides like this fairly often, maybe 10 annually plus 2 -3 trips to the mountains 500 miles away. Electric would not be an option for me unless I trailer it to the destination.

 

[670cc]

I rode 444 miles yesterday and 423 the day before on an out and back ride. I do rides like this fairly often, maybe 10 annually plus 2 -3 trips to the mountains 500 miles away. Electric would not be an option for me unless I trailer it to the destination.

I fully agree. Electric, as the products and infrastructure are today, would not be an option for those ride types. As I do similar long trips occasionally, I’ll need to retain my old internal combustion engines for some time yet.

 

[the Ferret]

Check out the new screen at .16 that we won't be getting and the new bar switches. Apparently, someone is going to have the option of green, red or white too.

 

[Texan1948]

I just hope we get the 2025! Honda will only give the U S one color. But I am ok with any of the 4 colors, red, green, white or black.

 

[nc750dct]

I would have to wait until they come back around to blue so all my accessories will match again.

 

[Kiwi]

Ordered this last week: 2025 DCT in Fighting Red.


Equipped with the Urban Pack in red (including a top box, rear rack, center stand, usb-c and some sort of luggage divider?), hand guards, comfort seats front & rear.

We have choice in 4 (all?) colors and the manual and DCT models. The green color is a bit tricky, can't say if I hate or like it. White is exactly the same as I have now, so won't pick that. Black is nice, but it looks too similar to the 2021-2024 in my eyes, with all the silver. So...red it will be.

We will get the full color LCD display with Roadsync. Not sure if it will be any use for the connectivity part: I've read the guide and 80% of the options won't be available when connecting to IOS - it's all tailored towards Android.

My first ever brand new motorbike, after 14 previous bikes. A bit disappointed in the amount of Honda accessories: no tank pad, clear film protection pack, etc.

As a trade-in bike, my 2017 NC750X DCT in white will have to go. Love riding that bike, but always regretted my choice to pick the white one - it's just ugly with white and silver fairing (my opinion). Since it's currently equipped with a lot of extra's (and the dealer wants to have it stock) I'll can check what parts can fit both the 2016-2020 model ánd the 2025+ model. Things like an Ixil sport exhaust and rear fender will probably fit. The Shad comfort seats and Ermax black sport screen won't fit, so they'll have to go.

 

[670cc]

Ordered this last week: 2025 DCT in Fighting Red.
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Equipped with the Urban Pack in red (including a top box, rear rack, center stand, usb-c and some sort of luggage divider?), hand guards, comfort seats front & rear.

We have choice in 4 (all?) colors and the manual and DCT models. The green color is a bit tricky, can't say if I hate or like it. White is exactly the same as I have now, so won't pick that. Black is nice, but it looks too similar to the 2021-2024 in my eyes, with all the silver. So...red it will be.

We will get the full color LCD display with Roadsync. Not sure if it will be any use for the connectivity part: I've read the guide and 80% of the options won't be available when connecting to IOS - it's all tailored towards Android.

My first ever brand new motorbike, after 14 previous bikes. A bit disappointed in the amount of Honda accessories: no tank pad, clear film protection pack, etc.

As a trade-in bike, my 2017 NC750X DCT in white will have to go. Love riding that bike, but always regretted my choice to pick the white one - it's just ugly with white and silver fairing (my opinion). Since it's currently equipped with a lot of extra's (and the dealer wants to have it stock) I'll can check what parts can fit both the 2016-2020 model ánd the 2025+ model. Things like an Ixil sport exhaust and rear fender will probably fit. The Shad comfort seats and Ermax black sport screen won't fit, so they'll have to go.

That new NC looks very nice. Report back when you get it and had a chance to ride it and compare to your ‘17.

 

[the Ferret]

Sometimes...life just isn't fair

 

[Donk]

Sometimes...life just isn't fair

Depends if you're the one getting the new bike or not.

Hey looks like the '25 is getting functional tank/frunk rails again that you can attach to?