Just a follow up to installing my cheapo Amazon bar risers this afternoon. I can definitely tell that my shoulders and arms are less stretched out, the position is much more inviting to my upper spine and neck. I have noticed that my seating position has changed as well (as I predicted) and I am not sure if it's for the better. I raised my seat with a 3D printed plastic piece a few months back and found it was incrementally better. With the addition of the bar risers, I think I need to remove the plastic piece to see if it helps at all. I seem to have the typical groin discomfort from sitting too far forward and not on my butt. My plan is to send the seat for an upgrade over the long New England winter, if I think it will be worth it. I am not sure if I have ever owned a bike that is this uncomfortable and needs to have so many aftermarket adjustments made. Or, am I becoming a whiny old man? I would love to hear from anyone else with some input.