I would suspect the battery's state of charge and not the engine oil. Last year, I switched to Shell Rotella 15W-40 from Honda GN-4 10W-30 and felt absolutely no difference in shifting performance.
I'm glad to see that they're working on it. I fear that they might test the shift motor it when it's cold. If the issue only occurs after it's overheated, they may determine it's functional when it's notGot off the phone with the service dept. They're going to start on the bike today. I think today they're going to start off with the basics to make sure there's a solid baseline to work with. Proper battery charge, oil levels, fluid levels, chain and sprockets, etc (all of these are fine to my knowledge). They're also going to pull up any codes that were stored. Hopefully I didn't erase them when I did a DCT reset (does this delete codes?).
Then after that they're going to get into the more detailed aspects of the issue. I asked them to test the Shift Motor and to make sure that it runs properly in BOTH directions when 12v is applied.
Are you not afraid that the dealer may take advantage of your close involvement and your recommendation of what should be done next?...We decided that the next best course of action is to check for the shifter pin in the Gearshift Drum Assembly that is known to come loose over time, or in some cases snap in half. At the same time I asked them to phone up Honda Tech Support or whatever it's called and see if the official Honda techs have any suggestions. My bike is not under warranty so I can't open a case with them but they will still call. They also told me that if I still believe it's the Shift Motor then I could place an order for one and they will install it for me.
... The labor costs are piling up and a fix has not been found...
Even with my suggestions they still went through the proper steps with the stored DTC's in accordance to the service manual. Now we're at the point where it basically says to replace the entire ECU-PCM unit which is likely not even going to fix the issue. So at this point I have no real options other than to throw a new shift motor on it and see if that fixes the issue. I could deliberately try to get it to happen again and see if it throws out new DTC's to shift focus on. But yeah, they are putting a lot of time and energy on my bike so the labor costs are going to bite me in the ass for sure. I'm going to try and work with them on the price as much as I can considering I may (potentially) leave without a solution ever being found, and at the end of the day they just tested a bunch of stuff for me and changed the oil. The shift motor I can install myself because it's just 3 bolts, but the other stuff like examining the shift drum assembly was worth it because I didn't want to touch that stuff and not know how to put it back together.Are you not afraid that the dealer may take advantage of your close involvement and your recommendation of what should be done next?
I think it would be better for you to say at the beginning that the DCT is broken and let them fix it. But now they can count any failed repairs in the cost and say they did it at your insistence.
Just a note.......ebay has a listing, it does not mean they have the part in stock ready to ship.ebay has it
Just order from one of the listings that indicate in stock availability.Just a note.......ebay has a listing, it does not mean they have the part in stock ready to ship.
Most dealers no longer stock 1000’s of parts. They stock fast moving parts.
Many dealers have overs to sell using Ebay, Amazon or other selling platforms. They list 100’s of parts on thses platforms. They maybe ordering parts when an Ebay order is made. If thats the case they will be unable to fill the order if Honda has the part on BO.