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New member. Just got my 2021 and took it out for the first ride. My observations and questions.

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Hi. Thanks for having me on the forum. As stated I just took my new 2021 NC750 out for its first ride. I have a few questions and observations that I hope you members can help me with.

My background is that I’ve basically always owned sport bikes. In recent years I’ve owned 3 gsxr1000s, an SV1000, and traded in a 2018 gsx-s1000f to buy the NC. My other bike is a 1995 VFR750. I sold the gsx-s1000f because apart from being a superb hooligan bike, it was totally impractical for everyday use, and I was plain fed up with one dimensional bikes. Hence the NC750.

I test rode an NC750 at a demo ride years ago only because it was the only bike available for a ride. I was surprisedI and really impressed with what it was, and what it could do. I found it peppy, and smooth riding, which will bring up one of my questions later.

2021 Impressions.

On taking off I found that the seating position for my 6’2” height is good and reasonably comfortable. The seat could be further back for my legs, and the rear of the seat a little flatter. The seat itself is very hard. I like hard seats having a Corbin on my VFR, but it could definitely be wider. Something I may have to change at a later date, as on my VFR the Corbin allowed me one day to ride 1400 kilometres in 13 hours. Very much doubt the NC right now could do that for me.

Not having ridden an NC since the initial demo ride, but remembering it, I was surprised that the engine didn’t feel the same. The 700 had felt smoother in delivery and you didn’t feel that you could count every pulse as you can on the 2021. Other than that, even running it it, I found it peppy and somewhat hard to keep the revs down. It wanted to rev. I have no doubt that I will enjoy running it through the gears when I’m able to. It’s a manual, and I don’t find gear changing bothersome.

The transmission is as slick as anything I have ridden in the past. Kudos to Honda. The only irritant I found was that when trying to rev match when changing down, the sluggish engine characteristics required a big handful of gas to do so. I know it has a slipper clutch, but old habits die hard.

The electronics. Well, that’s going to take me a while to get used to. When reading the manual I found it very confusing as Im not a big fan of electronics on bikes and having to fiddle around with settings. Sure I like some of the things you can do such as traction, power modes etc, but most of it just leaves me cold. It will definitely take me a while to learn what I can do, and how to do it.

The suspension. This is by far my only real complaint about the bike. The rear is slightly too soft for my 200 lbs. No problem I’ll play with the preload. If that doesn’t work for me I have an Ohlins which I took off the gsx-s1000f, and see if I can modify that to fit. The front. Right now the front suspension is possibly the worst I’ve ever encountered on a bike. I’m hoping it’s just a question of being new, and needs to wear in a bit. It’s fine, but not great, at going over slight bumps, but just going down a smooth road it feels as if the suspension is not compressing at all over slight ridges and the bars just hop. It’s not smoothly compliant. I see that there’s a lot of stiction in the forks. I’m hoping that lubing the fork seals will cure this problem. If not, then Ill see about upgrading them.

That’s about it. Can anyone advise whether my complaint about the front fork is unusual for the NC, or is it a common problem. Your assistance will enable me to decide what if anything to do about it.
 

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I weigh about 180 and find the suspension jarring on both ends, especially the front. Not impressed with SVDB or whatever it is forks. However I dont come from a sport bike background, but rather a touring bike background, and prefer compliant suspension as compared to race bike taut.
 

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I can say you are right about the front forks. There is a lot of stiction on mine even after 58,000 miles. I have installed RaceTech emulators and that helped with abrupt bumps, but it is still not a supple front suspension.
 

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I weigh about 180 and find the suspension jarring on both ends, especially the front. Not impressed with SVDB or whatever it is forks. However I dont come from a sport bike background, but rather a touring bike background, and prefer compliant suspension as compared to race bike taut.
Compliant, soft suspension is what I was expecting to find on the NC. Maybe over soft and wallowly. That’s not the case. The front forks and rear shock are at odds with each other. I’m not concerned. I knew the suspension is budget, and as I intend to keep the bike it doesn’t concern me to put money into it. Being a Honda I am surprised.

I have lubed the oil seals, and there appears less Stiction. My next ride will see if there‘s a difference.
 

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I also agree with your assessment of the front forks. Especially about feeling really harsh over ridges and medium size discontinuities in the road.

I just installed the Race Tech emulators (literally on Sunday, just three days ago) and have immediately felt the improvement.
 

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I also agree with your assessment of the front forks. Especially about feeling really harsh over ridges and medium size discontinuities in the road.

I just installed the Race Tech emulators (literally on Sunday, just three days ago) and have immediately felt the improvement.
I’ll likely be going that route if a few minor adjustments I’m doing don’t work out.
 

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What's a discontinuity doc?
Like when concrete slabs in the road don't quite line up. Not big potholes, but edges where there are gaps or jumps between surfaces. The old suspension transmitted all of those bumps directly into the handlebars, but with the new valve emulators it seems to just eat them up, you can barely feel anything.
 

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I have a 2016 and improved the forks by fitting Racetech gold valve emulators and springs. I have previously had a variety of bikes and suspensions including Ohlins and can say my forks are now comparable to them all. It runs like it’s on rails not soft and squishy or too firm, and far cheaper.
 

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2021s were the first iteration of the SDBV Shoei dual bending valve forks, which were supposed to be an upgrade over previous generations, supposedly being able to react better/faster than the old style forks, and actually got good reviews by the press, but in my real world they arent nearly as good as my 9 year old CB 1100 forks.

Seems to me though that most recommendations and fork kits are set up for performance riding (track), rather than pleasure riding.
 
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2021s were the first iteration of the SDBV Shoei dual bending valve forks, which were supposed to be an upgrade over previous generations, supposedly being able to react better/faster than the old style forks, and actually got good reviews by the press, but in my real world they arent nearly as good as my 9 year old CB 1100 forks.

Seems to me though that most recommendations and fork kits are set up for performance riding (track), rather than pleasure riding.
Press bike tests have never changed. No manufacturer is going to invite a journalist to their demo rides if they say anything particularly adverse about any model. Hence no bad comments about the suspension on the 2021 Nc750.

I will say that lubing the oil seals and loosening the front end and retightening in the correct sequence has much Improved the compliance. Now it’s about 95% right. Gasman has cheered me up and Racetech is in my future.

I think Honda made a mistake when they reduced the fork and shock travel on the 2021. This type of bike needs plush long travel suspension.
 
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