Anyone experience Madstad windshield on 2021 DCT?
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brayon
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Exactly, buyer beware..2015 & 2017 NC with bark busters, risr, quad lock and the likes need to cut/trim a lot to get it to work. Did I say categorically….. Senior moment again. Pardon my contribution, signing off.
bullhead
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Interesting… I went to look at the windscreen height recommendations to see which one I ordered, but the 2021+ NC750X has been removed from the website. They must be redesigning it, hopefully to deal with the width issues and mirrors/hand guards.
I looked at my email receipt, and I had ordered a 20” windscreen like they recommended. I would advise going the next size up for your height if they re-release it. It’s almost enough to completely remove air buffering at its max height, but I still feel it a bit, unless I crouch in the seat. The next height would have been perfect. I might attach one of those cheap windscreen height deflectors and hope that does the trick.
Also, regarding hand guards. My bike came with the cheap eBay hand guards. Normally they are worthless, but in this case they worked in my favor. I was able to bend the attachment points down and saw the top of the guards, so now it only barely touches the windscreen at full lock. They won’t do anything in a crash, but they block bugs and wind from hitting my hands.
I looked at my email receipt, and I had ordered a 20” windscreen like they recommended. I would advise going the next size up for your height if they re-release it. It’s almost enough to completely remove air buffering at its max height, but I still feel it a bit, unless I crouch in the seat. The next height would have been perfect. I might attach one of those cheap windscreen height deflectors and hope that does the trick.
Also, regarding hand guards. My bike came with the cheap eBay hand guards. Normally they are worthless, but in this case they worked in my favor. I was able to bend the attachment points down and saw the top of the guards, so now it only barely touches the windscreen at full lock. They won’t do anything in a crash, but they block bugs and wind from hitting my hands.
The Phoenix
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Bullhead,
Recently I had come email communication with Madstad Customer Service regarding the windshield for the 2021 NC750. I too was looking for information and they informed me that they were re-designing the 2021 windshield but did share specifics. They took down the specific page and will be putting up the revised page and information once they are finished. Sorry but I guess I deleted their email to me but if you email Customer Service I am sure that you will get a message like the one I received.
The Phoenix
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Adjustable Windshield System for Honda NC750X (2021 & Up) | Madstad Engineering
Madstad Adjustable Windshield System for Honda NC700X (2016 - 2020)
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Yesterday I received the above link to the new madstad windshield (21-23 MY) from madstad customer service. Interesting revision of the original '21 version and now offering 10% discount for those interested.
Looks nice!Adjustable Windshield System for Honda NC750X (2021 & Up) | Madstad Engineering
Madstad Adjustable Windshield System for Honda NC700X (2016 - 2020)
Yesterday I received the above link to the new madstad windshield (21-23 MY) from madstad customer service. Interesting revision of the original '21 version and now offering 10% discount for those interested.
Dav2ison
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Just ordered my new Madstad for our 2023. I've been waiting and can't wait to put it on. The Stock windscreen was Just barely adequate. My torso is long and using the technique they recommended for sizing I ordered a 24" in light grey. I'll update with how long it takes to receive and pictures when I'm done.
YP400
New Member
Response from Madstad regarding latest gen NC and Barkbusters:
We are very excited and thanks for checking in regarding Bark Busters. We left room beyond the stock guards for larger hand guards but did not test specifically yours. Are you located within the US48? I ask because if you order the kit and if there's any issue, we'll pick up the return shipping and give you a full refund of the purchase price.
Follow up email - please consider this addendum if ordering:
And I should have clarified, normally there is a 10 - 15% restocking fee applied to returns within 30 days, but I wanted to offer that to you since we have not confirmed the Bark Buster brand fitment for certain. No biggie at all though and if you happen to order reasonably soon, say within 3 weeks, please let me know and I'll add a special note regarding the fee waiver to your order. Or by that time I may also have confirmation regarding the BB fitment.
We are very excited and thanks for checking in regarding Bark Busters. We left room beyond the stock guards for larger hand guards but did not test specifically yours. Are you located within the US48? I ask because if you order the kit and if there's any issue, we'll pick up the return shipping and give you a full refund of the purchase price.
Follow up email - please consider this addendum if ordering:
And I should have clarified, normally there is a 10 - 15% restocking fee applied to returns within 30 days, but I wanted to offer that to you since we have not confirmed the Bark Buster brand fitment for certain. No biggie at all though and if you happen to order reasonably soon, say within 3 weeks, please let me know and I'll add a special note regarding the fee waiver to your order. Or by that time I may also have confirmation regarding the BB fitment.
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YP400
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The stock screen is inadequate for me but I may go OEM tall because it does appear (based on photos from others) that it will work…..
bumblepee
Member
Sorry for never reporting back here, but I got my Madstad Windshield a while back (clear transparent). Installation was a bit tricky but they have a video clear enough, so just followed it. The change is absolutely dramatic. I keep the top of the shield at the level of my mouth or chin approximately. Until 50-60mph there is no need to close my modular helmet. I feel much more confident and comfortable riding at 80-90mph on the highway. The original setup made me feel unsafe with a lot of wind buffets around 75-80mph. The best thing is still not even needing to close the helmet til 45mph. In our state, I can even ride without a helmet which would be possible with the Madstad, but I don't do it. In summer, I can now use a half helmet for short rides, no problems at all. Noise on the helmet is still a thing because I got a crappy HJC RPHA 90S which is a rattling box, but I can barely hear the engine after putting on the Airpods Pro 2. Those airpods combined with the DCT are another blessing, you can't not-hear the engine if you need to change gears. Some of you may say that I am taking the fun off riding a motorcycle, but it does not matter. There are times I can ride for fun and there are times I have to commute. Moreover, riding with less noise gives me more confidence to put a more aggressive ride.
If someone still needs pictures of the bike with the Madstad Windshield, let me know.
If someone still needs pictures of the bike with the Madstad Windshield, let me know.
Dav2ison
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I have a 2023 with a 24" light gray Madstad screen. If I had it to do over again, I would purchase a clear screen at 22" I think the light gray is just too dark. It's a vast improvement over the stock screen. Our state requires a helmet at all times. I have a modular.
WestcoastKid
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How did the Madstad windscreen work out for you? I own a 2022 NC750 and am trying to decide which tall windscreen to purchase. The GIVI Touring Windscreen also has favorable reviews for the 21-24 models.
Dav2ison
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As I'd mentioned in a previous post, I should have gone with a 22" as the 24 is just too tall. The light gray is a bit too dark for me though. I had a bit of trouble with the position locking hand screws staying tight but fixed that with aftermarket spring washers. The screen works great otherwise. No buffeting. I've used wind screens in the past that didn't allow air under the screen. I had a lot of buffeting from them. I would give the MadStad an A for screens.
bumblepee
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The Madstad windshield was absolutely great for me. Wind cuts down a lot, and no need to close the helmet til 55mph. I bought the 22in version and the shield stood half way through the adjustable range. I am 6ft tall. The only problem though is that the NC subframe started to come apart at the points of welding due to the high forces the windshield stands. Here is a video:
I removed the dashboard and brought it to a welder, who fixed the issue. Another guy in the forum had the same exact issue.
I sold my NC now so I don't know if the weld is holding well. The puritans around forums claim that the bike is not designed for the Madstad windshield. I contacted Madstad myself and they said they have not heard about this problem.
So, as a windshield Madstad is fantastic. As a bike, I started to hate Honda for changing the subframe in 2021 and doing crappy welding jobs that do not hold (earlier models have used Madstad without a problem).
I removed the dashboard and brought it to a welder, who fixed the issue. Another guy in the forum had the same exact issue.
I sold my NC now so I don't know if the weld is holding well. The puritans around forums claim that the bike is not designed for the Madstad windshield. I contacted Madstad myself and they said they have not heard about this problem.
So, as a windshield Madstad is fantastic. As a bike, I started to hate Honda for changing the subframe in 2021 and doing crappy welding jobs that do not hold (earlier models have used Madstad without a problem).
Rydinon
Member
I'm no expert but it looked to me like there was very poor penetration of that weld. The weld itself looked pretty sloppy - a good rule of thumb is if it looks good, it probably was done right.
My new used 2021 DCT, which I have not taken for a ride yet came w/ a Madstad. The mounting bar for a GPS/Phone, whatever, is too close to the windshield when it is tilted back, toward the rider. Look at the pictures of how one of our members modified his. https://www.nc700-forum.com/threads/misc-nc700-750-accessories-prices-lowered.24987/ I expected better engineering from Madstad.
WestcoastKid
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Bummer! That's a total fail on Honda's design and engineering. It's interesting that the welds fail in that spot since the pressure from the windshield would be applied by pressing "against" the weld joint rather than away from it. Regardless, it shouldn't happen.
The Honda sub frame has not reportedly failed with any Honda windscreens. Honda could not be expected to support any and all aftermarket products that might come about beyond their control. The failure would be the aftermarket producer who did not evaluate if the NC platform was suitable for their product.
bumblepee
Member
The wind does not just press but shakes the windshield, so a week welding is a problem.
@670cc , it does not matter your legal logic. The subframe of 2021+ NC is weaker and there have been other reports of the same issue. You may not blame Honda for it but most riders do. All older models had stronger subframe and never had issues with the windshield. Changing parts with aftermarket is very very common in motorcycles. Failing to account for that is a huge blind spot for a manufacturer. For me, the welding crack was the last drop to make up my mind and sell it. No more Honda for me for a while. Got a BMW F800gsa that is built like a tank and has a huge subframe that holds the windshield. Night and day the quality compared to the Honda plastic parts.
I agree the new frame weakness is a big detractor. It is one of several reasons I don’t want a 2021+ NC. Nonetheless, it may have been Honda‘s goal to build a lighter frame that still adequately supports it’s own windshield, just maybe not all others. Honda may have succeeded, not failed.
I wonder if Madstad is aware of the weakness.
bumblepee
Member
I told Madstad, so they know.
