DCT owners. Your mileage please...

[wozza]

Hi, I'm trying to ascertain what the long term reliability is for DCT ownership. So I'm very interested to hear of any high mileage DCT machines please... I know there's been the odd stuck in gear issue, but I think most owners managed to resolve this themselves. Have there any other issues that anyone has noticed?

 

[Fuzzy]

I have 12,000. Expect another 3,000 in next 2 weeks. Have seen much higher on UK forum. Got stuck in gear once hitting kill switch at 70 mph and not knowing I did it. Battery good so multiple key on / off and rocking bike worked it from 6th to 1st then neutral. No other problems.

 

[wozza]

Excellent reply - thanks Fuzzy...

 

[Jelly]

2014 NCX 750 DCT.

1700 miles, just one issue to date, trip meters resetting themselves.

My dealer says he's going to replace the entire dash/clocks display.

 

[Vescol]

17.700 km (11.000 miles) in 11 months. Zero problems.

 

[wozza]

Thank for the replies. The highest I've come across so far is 59,000km which is isn't that far off 40,000 miles. All without problems.

 

[Larryb]

I am at 7300 problem free miles on my DCT averaging about 65 mpg which is primarily highway riding.

 

[draco_1967]

I don't think reliability will be an issue with the DCT. IRC the tech has been in use for a looong time in ATVs. I had a clutchless Honda ATV 15 years ago.

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[Fuzzy]

I don't think reliability will be an issue with the DCT. IRC the tech has been in use for a looong time in ATVs. I had a clutchless Honda ATV 15 years ago.

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Was it a DCT or CVT, two totally different technologies ?



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[wozza]

Was it a DCT or CVT, two totally different technologies ?



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To give you a basic answer ( as someone will be able to explain better than me). Yes both systems are completely different.
The DCT is in fact closer to a manual than a true automatic. Having a proper set of gears and two clutches each operating a set of gears. 1,3 and,4 and the other clutch 2,4 and 6. From what I understand a DCT bike/car is in 2 gears at the same time and the clutches switch on and off between the gears. This can be done automatically or via a system of paddles (as you already know).
Now CVT is completely different and has been used in the scooter world and some cars for a number of years.
It consists of the belt drive moving up and down a cone shaped variator. Technically CVT has an infinitely variable gear ratios ( I don't fully understand it myself).

 

[wozza]

The clutch on a scooter is on the rear wheel. It's a bit like a drum brake in a way, as it has a set of shoes which spin out as you rev the scoot and grab a the inside of metal cylinder in order to move the scoot forward. On tick over the shoes retract and disconnect from the cylinder so there is no drive. Like being in neutral. However if you start to rev the clutch shoes will expand and you start to move forward.

Clutches on scoots are normally dry clutches, however on the latest Piaggio scooter engines such as in the X10 350 and 500 they have wet clutches. I'm not sure how the wet clutch work on a scoot.

 

[wozza]

Sorry about all the posts on one subject. My Internet connection's gone haywire and I didn't realise I'd started a new post.

 

[Fuzzy]

Was it a DCT or CVT, two totally different technologies ?

To give you a basic answer ( as someone will be able to explain better than me). Yes both systems are completely different.

My post was poorly worded. I intended asking Draco what was on his Honda 4 wheeler because DCT and CVT are different. I am very familiar with the CVT on scooters to the point my handle is widely used on a performance modification I initiated. Google "Fuzzy Washer" if you want more details.

 

[wozza]

My post was poorly worded. I intended asking Draco what was on his Honda 4 wheeler because DCT and CVT are different. I am very familiar with the CVT on scooters to the point my handle is widely used on a performance modification I initiated. Google "Fuzzy Washer" if you want more details.

Sorry Fuzzy, it's probably me getting the wrong end of the stick, so to speak... I apologise.

 

[Fuzzy]

No need to apologise. Typing on my phone I did not make myself clear.

 

[johnakay]

4,000 miles and still counting.

 

[draco_1967]

Fuzzy, it was a DCT. It had 5 gears and a neutral, shifted by the left foot, but no clutch lever. It also had a parking brake, much like the NC's

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[670cc]

I don't think reliability will be an issue with the DCT. IRC the tech has been in use for a looong time in ATVs. I had a clutchless Honda ATV 15 years ago.

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Fuzzy, it was a DCT. It had 5 gears and a neutral, shifted by the left foot, but no clutch lever. It also had a parking brake, much like the NC's

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The old auto clutch ATVs with a foot shifter are not Dual Clutch Transmissions. Different technology.

 

[draco_1967]

Ah, good to know. Thanks for clarifying 670cc

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[Harald]

The 2013 NC700XD just turned over 600 miles on friday. Yes, that's not a typo - 600 miles and time for the first service. We've had it since July 2013, but the wife has had ankle problems and hasn't ridden but a couple hundred miles. I've had to fill in and put some miles on it when I'm not riding my FJR1300 that is now up to 82,000 miles.

No problems at all on the NC and I don't expect to see any.