Anyone switch to a fully synthetic crankcase oil yet?

[670cc]

Looking through my service manual I noted that chart that depicts oil recommendations shows 10w30 and 10w40 across the entire operating range of temperatures. The owners manual of course only recommends 10w30. I am glad for the choice.

That's good to know. My service manual hasn't arrived yet but I did order it.

!0W-30 motorcycle specific oil does not seem to be as widely available in discount form as 10W-40. I have over 2 cases of the 10W-40 stuff around the shop since that's what all my other motos use. Fact is, I just changed my NCX oil at the 600 mile mark a week ago, and I did put the 10W-40 in it. Good to know it was actually OK!

Greg

 

[670cc]

In another thread I posted a link that shows motorcycle oil filters cut open. Have a look before you buy anything with "Fram" written on it.

http://www.leroybeal.net/motorcycles/silverwing/articles/oil-filters/Motorcycle%2520oil%2520filters%2520exposed.pdf

Then there's this Web site where they recommend not using the Honda nor the Fram filters. One of the recommended filters is actually a discount Walmart item. Interesting.

Motorcycle Oil Filter Cross Reference

Greg

 

[dduelin]

Then there's this Web site where they recommend not using the Honda nor the Fram filters. One of the recommended filters is actually a discount Walmart item. Interesting.

Motorcycle Oil Filter Cross Reference

Greg

Oh please. It's the Honda Motor Company for pete's sake. You don't think Honda knows whether or not their filters are good enough to use for the life of the engine? Whose reputation is on the line, some guy who wrote an internet essay or Honda?

 

[turbodieseli4i6]

What Super Tech filter fits the NCX? I'm assuming that's the one your referring to. I generally use Wix filters.

 

[670cc]

What Super Tech filter fits the NCX? I'm assuming that's the one your referring to. I generally use Wix filters.

I believe the ST6607 would be the best fit. It's identical sizing to the Honda. I went to Walmart in person, and to the Walmart Web site and they don't seem to have Super Tech filters anymore.

I personally think the advice from that site ( Motorcycle Oil Filter Cross Reference ) should be ignored. Just because you cut open a filter and you are impressed or unimpressed with the visuals doesn't make you a qualified oil filter engineer.

 

[Beemerphile]

Something happened with the SuperTech filters. I am not sure what it was, but they pulled stock from the shelves.

 

[turbodieseli4i6]

Thanks guy's! I generally use Wix filters unless better quality is available. I also check BITOG for reviews before trying something new or cheaper.

 

[Northshore__Paul]

The great oil debate can go on forever, but the short answer is just use what the owner's manual specifies. The manual states that the oil should have the MA rating. Some synthetics are labeled MA, but not all (for example Mobil 1 Has no MA rating).

Greg

I just checked a quart of Mobil 1 10w40 motorcycle oil and it plainly states it is MA rated. Were you speaking about Mobil 1 automotive oil?

 

[ld_rider]

Digging up an almost four-year old oil thread. In June....

Priceless !

;-)

 

[rippin209]

Thanks guy's! I generally use Wix filters unless better quality is available. I also check BITOG for reviews before trying something new or cheaper.

Napa brand filters are made by Wix and are half the price, I just buy

 

[rippin209]

And the great oil debate lives on. Hahahaha

 

[Beemerphile]

Digging up an almost four-year old oil thread. In June....

Priceless !

;-)

Like I say, you can kill a vampire with a wooden stake through the heart, but you can't kill an oil thread.

 

[670cc]

Yep. When a thread is this old, I learn things when reading my own posts!

I'm like, did I write that?

 

[MedicMutt]

Welcome to the deep, dark world of oil threads, Paul! Not sure if you've entered this treacherous land before, but it's unlike any other topic I've ever researched... In the end, follow the oil spec for your machine and your gut instinct. Godspeed, sir!

 

[supertux1]

Oil is overrated. Use whatever you want. Or don't:

[video=youtube;jK9h43Ivqjg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK9h43Ivqjg[/video]

 

[happy]

Yeah...I am about to change oil...since that last one...
Mobil 1?

I would just go for a reputable oil brand, 10W-30 and SG rated (or above). 3.4L with oil filter. All that I learned in the user manual.


Question for the oil heads here: is this oil ok to use?
Liqui Moly Motorbike 4T 5W-40 Offroad Race Vollsynth. 4 Ltr.

 

[bvogel7475]

Yup. I haven't chimed in on this thread. In my 30 years of maintaining my cars and motorcycles, the two most important factors were using oil with the specs that the manufacturer recommended (ie 5W-20, 0W-20, 10W-40 etc) and the frequency of the oil change. I usually change every 5-7K miles and have never had an engine fail. The highest mileage vehicle I have ever had is my current Acura MDX at 150K and that car runs like it's new and the oil looks great. That car is 11 years old as well. Used Mobil 1 - 5W-20 for the life of the car.

 

[MZ5]

Is this oil ok to use?
Liqui Moly Motorbike 4T 5W-40 Offroad Race Vollsynth. 4 Ltr.

It does not strictly adhere to any of Honda's grade recommendations. It does adhere to the frictional characteristics Honda recommends: JASO MA (MA2 is a sub-segment of the broader MA category). If I felt like it, I would use it. If you used it, then tested it after using for a while, and didn't tell anyone here what you'd used, they would not be able to distinguish between this fluid and many, many others.

 

[670cc]

Question for the oil heads here: is this oil ok to use?
Liqui Moly Motorbike 4T 5W-40 Offroad Race Vollsynth. 4 Ltr.

According to Honda, no. The specs for the NC are simple: 10w-30 or 10w-40, JASO MA and API SG (or higher) rated, non energy conserving. What you propose does not meet the specs.

 

[TigerDude]

They're called "Resource Conserving" now.