I am sorry, but riding hard into a corner either street style or dirt style is still going to be using the same contact point on the tire; depends on the skill of the rider. It also depends on the tire.He's riding 'crossed up', counterweighting the outside peg so he can induce more lean angle in order to turn sharper.
Riding on the edge of the tire like that deforms the contact patch and reduces total traction available. (Edit: Also introduces increased lateral forces and reduces the effectiveness of up/down suspension parts...)
It's fine on a dirtbike where there are knobbies all the way around and breaking the rear free with a blip of throttle is a legitimate way to steer.
On the street it's the sort of thing you do when making a U-turn on a narrow road, scrubbing in new tires in a parking lot etc... doing it in a high speed turn on the road is a great way to slide into oncoming traffic...
I used to ride my NC like that, leaning the bike beneath me and staying upright. A kindly instructor in the MSF Advanced Rider Course had me try hanging off instead, so now I do that even though it feels weird.
OTOH: Mick Doohan won a lot of races 'doing it wrong', much depends on your tires and smoothness.
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I'm sorry I should have elaborated... there's two kinds of 'contact' area -- apparent contact area and true contact area. The apparent contact area for most tires is the size of credit card at almost all lean angles and may actually increase as the tire is rolled towards 45 degrees. This is what tire manufacturers like to show you. This is the contact area represented by just the tire - no bike or rider - with its own weight sitting gingerly on a dry road.I am sorry, but riding hard into a corner either street style or dirt style is still going to be using the same contact point on the tire; depends on the skill of the rider. It also depends on the tire.
On the below picture (sorry, cheap phone picture), is the rear Conti Motion Pro-the contact point goes way over and curves around the side of the tire and ends just above the lettering on the tire. I have been close to the edge (as far as my skills allow) with no problems. If the rider knows how to ride dirt style on street, there shouldn't be any problem with tire and its contact point.
This is how I understood it works and how reference books (eg Total Control) explain it. And why I try to do it this way.The net effect is there is less traction available when leaned over for braking and acceleration. Riders hang off because it keeps the bike more perpendicular through the turn and maximizes traction, this allows them to trail brake further into the turn and get on the throttle sooner after the apex.
A bit prejudicial I think. I'm French and don't ride like that. This is just a stupid guy thinking he's in a race, when he's on a common road - possibly even a bad one as are many small roads in the south of France - with lots of other users on it. He's an ***. All countries carry this kind of assholes, this is not typically/exclusively French.On the other hand, it's exactly what I'm used to see with French motorcyclists...