Tony K
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You guys are killing me. Or maybe it's the way these threads work.
There seems to be a general preference for MadStad (despite the price and looks) which a poll in another thread seems to bear out. But we have folks like Craigmri who bought a Cee Bailey after a bad MadStad experience. Then there is the whole discussion brought on by someone's (can't find the discussion again) bad experience with a MadStad ripping off and smacking him in the helmet (post was complete with pictures) about brackets and mounting (top vs. bottom hole) and perhaps a redesign by MadStad. Part of it may be that some of these discussions started some time ago and history has overtaken the situation and I'm just not savvy enough to sort out whether I could really order a MadStad today and when I got it, open the box, and install without worry that something won't fit/it will fall off/that I'll need to order someone's specially fabricated brackets or drill some new holes in it (being careful to go slow and not crack it) etc. to make the thing work/look half decent. I get that some is personal preference but the whole discussion is, well, very confusing.
If you all were the folks I used to work with, I'd (try to) find a convenient time that worked for all (or at least most), set up a WebEx, an audio bridge line, and we'd all have a chat starting with "What are the requirements?" and figure out how well each brand satisfies each requirement. In the end, we would hopefully come to a consensus. (There is usually the "money and resources are no object" solution all the way down to one that all agree works for no one/satisfies none of the requirements.) Can't do that, though. Sigh. Maybe I should just wait a month or two for the dust to settle a bit more.
(Just a BTW, I did see on the Cee Baily web site they are offering free shipping through 07JUL13 for anyone interested in going that route. They also offer a MadStad replacement shield for the poster who thought a new MadStad shield was pitted and and an attempt by the installer to polish out was only making the plastic more opaque.)
Unique? The National Cycle Wind Deflector is mounted separately from the fairing above the headlight and if a lower or fly screen type of shield is fabricated it serves in a similar function to the Madstad base plate. That is how I mounted and adjusted mine anyway. Airflow is split at the base of the Deflector with some passing behind it and most in front of it. The videos I posted show air moving upwards behind the shield and smooth laminar flow off the top edge of the Deflector. At any rate it is using the same "slot effect" to quiet and smooth air that some other motorcycle windshields use.CMGuy:
The Madstad is unique among the choices available in that it channels air upwards both in front and behind the screen. These streams merge smoothly at the top of the screen and continue up a ways before becoming horizontal. It seems to do that at all height adjustments below my eye level, only extreme angle adjustments could screw this up. The only way to get a similar functional result with other screens seems to be to mount it high enough that you are looking through it rather than over it. That is a personal choice of course.
Unique? The National Cycle Wind Deflector is mounted separately from the fairing above the headlight and if a lower or fly screen type of shield is fabricated it serves in a similar function to the Madstad base plate. That is how I mounted and adjusted mine anyway. Airflow is split at the base of the Deflector with some passing behind it and most in front of it. The videos I posted show air moving upwards behind the shield and smooth laminar flow off the top edge of the Deflector. At any rate it is using the same "slot effect" to quiet and smooth air that some other motorcycle windshields use.
It is true if someone wanted to save some money they could look at the madstad site and download the instruction/setup manual.
The angle of the shield will always be the same, that could be a fixed angle, the height would not be to hard to get pretty close and that too could be fixed.
The thing about the madstad shield is that once it is adjusted RIGHT, it is adjusted pretty much forever, you do not need to be adjusting it after the initial adjustment.
That said it is nice to have adjustment for some wet weather, just in case. But if it is pouring you will get wet.
I am happy with my purchase of the madstad system, and will proabley buy more from Madsatd as needed.
For me, I want the on the fly adjustability of being able to have a 'shield higher for on the highway getting to offroad, and then lowered down as far as possible for the gravel work and trail use.
If it is cold, you angle the top a little forward, for more coverage.
If it is HOT!!, angle the top back a little bit for more air flow.
When you find a could of really good spots, I mark them with a silver sharpie on the bracket, for a quick adjustment, reference point. makes adjustment really fast.
Would be interested in hearing how the install goes, i.e., is it straightforward (~1/2 hour as someone else said), all the re-engineered attaching features present and accounted for, and can someone like me who can usually figure out which end of the screwdriver to hold (I do have a fairly complete tool box including a set of metric sockets, box and allen wrenches) accomplish the install in that same straightforward manner.Mine is siting on my couch now! Tomorrow it will be on my NCX....