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Installing a Madstad NC700 Windshield - Mike Mas

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I just wanted to start off by saying; “It takes a lot to get me excited about a windshield” but that’s exactly what my new Madstad windshield did.

I’ve been trying to make a decision for over two weeks now regarding which windshield would do best on my new NC700. While the lower price of the “Fixed” windshields were attractive, I found myself going back time after time to the Madstad web site for another look. When I weighed the extra cost to have a windshield that has adjustable height and angle and supplemented further with a set of wings to help lesson the air on the belt line, it became obvious that Madstad was going to be my choice.

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The price is only $289 well with the extra $100 or so over the price of a fixed windshield. I placed my order online and in less than a week UPS dropped the box off at the house. I would like to mention that even though the web site only shows 3 color options for the 22” shield, you can request any of their 6 different shades for your order. Since I’m 6’2” I went for the 22” shield to keep the air over my helmet.

Being somewhat spoiled by my electric windshield on my RTS Spyder, once you have the luxury of an adjustable windshield its hard to go back to a fixed piece. The problem with fixed windshields is they either work or don’t work initially when you install them. With Madstad, you have the option of height and angle so you can get the performance your looking for. Having an adjustable shield offers the many advantages like when you start off in the morning if its cool, you’ll want as much protection as you can get. After noon when it warms up, you’ll need the blast of air to keep you from over-heating. As I mentioned, the beauty of the Madstad windshield is it gives you the opportunity to control just how much windshield you want or don’t want, plus the added benefit of directing the airflow in a different manner.

Installation - Installing the windshield takes less than an hour, you’ll begin by removing your mini-shield to include the plastic pieces and rubber perma-nuts. Madstad supplies an angled metal bracket with nuts installed which slips in behind the stock windshield mount.

Next, you’ll mount the right and left ”beefy” windshield brackets using only the top retaining screw to hold the bracket in place while you mount the wing bracket to the same bracket.

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Wings - I would recommend that you install the wing glass before mounting the wing brackets to avoid the possibility of the allen wrench contacting your shiny new paint job. While on the subject of the wings, I purposely mounted one of them upside down to deflect some air off the grips. As you flip it over it ends up much higher and reduces the air flow by the bars. When used as recommended its effective in reducing air flow around the belt-line.


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Mounting the windshield - takes just minutes - there is four pre-installed rubber mounted supports to hold the shield in place.

Adjustability - the Madstad shield allows 3 1/2” of height adjustment - plus you can slant the shield both forward and rear. This is accomplished by just loosening two knobs in the shield bracket.

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Conclusion - Bottom line, I love the shield - the folks at Madstad did a super job of designing a versatile windshield for a simple bike at a very reasonable cost. You’ll find the Madstad shield is fairly thick and there is no bouncing or vibration at any speed. Another fuel advantage is the Madstad shield allows the air hitting the bike to flow up behind the shield rather than to disturb it like flush shields do. This combined with the curved design will also increase your mileage. You don’t have to have an engineering degree to understand that air passing around this curved windshield is less disturbed than hitting the flat of your chest. Another plus is it makes you machine just that much quieter, I can now hear the exhaust tone which was muffled by air noise before.

Anyhow, my helmet off to Madstad, they just made my NC700 that much more enjoyable and extended my winter riding time by a 2-3 months to boot.

Link: NC700X / NC750X

Regards

Mike Mas

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Well written and helpful post! I guess as cold weather comes on I need to think about this.
Is that the clear one?
 
Nice writeup. Love my Madstad. I think it looks Utilitarian like a snowmobile windshield. Others think it's hideous. To each his own.
 
Thanks guys - Mine is the light gray, I do a bit of night driving so i didn't want it to dark, here the different shades & Heights - I'm 6'2" and when I raise the shield all the way up it shoots the stream well above my head - Its even over my passengers head. Yet I can lower it down and tilt it back and get plenty of air on a hot day.

Regards

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I have the same version, the "Bahrain" version or third generation NC system. I agree with pretty much everything except the part about the Madstad increasing fuel mileage. I had a manual transmission NC without a Madstad before the Madstad-equipped DCT one I have now. The manual bike easily ran up to 100 then topped out at 105-108 mph and averaged 66.9 mpg over 13,xxx miles. The DCT bike in about 16,000 miles is averaging 62.3 mpg and hits the wall around 95 mph and struggles to 98-99. I pretty much ride the same way and the same places over time. One day I went out to my closed course test area and ran two passes at 98-99 mph. I removed the Madstad and winglets and repeated two passes and it easily topped out 105-106. I do agree the Madstad creates a smooth laminar flow of air in front of and behind the shield but frontal area is frontal area and the Madstad w/winglets adds a lot of it.

Thanks for the write-up. Very well done.
 
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I have the same version, the "Bahrain" version or third generation NC system. I agree with pretty much everything except the part about the Madstad increasing fuel mileage. I had a manual transmission NC without a Madstad before the Madstad-equipped DCT one I have now. The manual bike easily ran up to 100 then topped out at 105-108 mph and averaged 66.9 mpg over 13,xxx miles. The DCT bike in about 16,000 miles is averaging 62.3 mpg and hits the wall around 95 mph and struggles to 98-99. I pretty much ride the same way and the same places over time. One day I went out to my closed course test area and ran two passes at 98-99 mph. I removed the Madstad and winglets and repeated two passes and it easily topped out 105-106. I do agree the Madstad creates a smooth laminar flow of air in front of and behind the shield but frontal area is frontal area and the Madstad w/winglets adds a lot of it.

Thanks for the write-up. Very well done.

Thanks for the reply - there little doubt that anyone would achieve better mileage with the air-flow hitting the riders chest verses smoothly diverting air around a curved windshield. so we know there has to be an increase in fuel efficiency. Secondly, with Madstad's design located up and away from the bikes designed air flow it provides even more efficiency. I mean looking at it realistically, I don't think anyone is buying a windshield for increased mileage.

Concerning the wing's drag, I'm puzzled - it could have been a number of things to cause your reduction in speed, cross wind, additional engine temperature, (running it hard) changes in the fuel mixture (injection) etc. Considering the important fact the wings are located directly behind the the large "Flat" Non Aerodynamic turn signal lamps, the airflow is already disturbed where the lamp is causing drag and a low pressure area behind it so there is no smooth airflow to begin with in this area where the wings would slow the bike down. I did try turning them upside and even leaving them off on one side, but they seem to work fine in their normal position, they remove a lot of turbulent air coming across the tank around your elbow area.

I wish i would have know about Madstad a few months ago when I spent close to $500 for a fixed shield on my F3 Spyder. The BRP shield needs to be adjustable!
 
Well, OK. My observed results over 29,401 miles doesn't support the Madstad lowering my NC700X's drag coefficient and improving fuel economy but your experience may well be the opposite.

Indisputably this windshield gives me a comfortable wind pocket that more than makes up for it's homely appearance.
 
I've covered 27,000 miles with my 2012 NC. I ran it's first year or more on the stock screen. My average fuel economy dropped since installing the Madstad. I have also never been able to beat my old record for best gas mileage on a tank, as it was done on the stock windscreen.

Predicting that the aerodynamic drag will be less with the Madstad is one thing. Real world results may be another. Let us know. however. if yours improves.
 
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Mike, can you take a few pictures from all angles. I have the same (looking) bike as you and am looking at ordering the 22" clear. I would love to see it from all around.
Thanks!
 
a windscreen can do something positive for the rider in his riding position but it doesn't necessarily follow that it is making the entire bike more aerodynamic -- at least not at all speeds of travel. and dduelin's experiment bears that out. hard to argue with actual testing ; }
 
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I think this small fairing screen in front of the instrument pod smooths air flow there and cleans up the installation. The Bahrain version eliminated the aluminum base plate that covers all this area up on earlier versions and leaves it looking a bit unfinished.



I grabbed this pic off the opening post...Mark Madstad is not afraid of making improvements along the way. Opening the two mounting holes so the retaining bolts don't have to be removed for remove the entire winglet is a nice revision to the winglet mounts. Mine aren't like this and require removable of the bolts to remove the winglet mounts. I only have the winglets installed in the winter months so the warmer months I have the clear pieces off and the black metal mounts sticking out there in the breeze.

 
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What angle do you use for your Madstad,and did you play around with angles? I have tried both the 18.5 and 22" national cycle screens (one was borrowed, fortunately didn't buy both), and neither worked for my 5'10", 33" inseam self. I had terrible top of the head buzzing and booming even with the 22" screen at the top setting (which also interfered with my line of sight, constantly going back and forth from top to through). I'm wondering if the screen angle is the culprit in my instance.
 
What angle do you use for your Madstad,and did you play around with angles? I have tried both the 18.5 and 22" national cycle screens (one was borrowed, fortunately didn't buy both), and neither worked for my 5'10", 33" inseam self. I had terrible top of the head buzzing and booming even with the 22" screen at the top setting (which also interfered with my line of sight, constantly going back and forth from top to through). I'm wondering if the screen angle is the culprit in my instance.

Thanks for all the reply's!

Yes, I like the idea of easy removal of the wings - maybe on the next upgrade he'll put a hinge on them! :confused:

I'm 6'2" and this morning I stopped like 10 times going into town making small adjustments. I now have mine around 1" from the top position leaned all the way "forward". When I straighten my back, I can just look over the entire windshield with no buffeting on the helmet. It really makes the bike much more enjoyable, that pounding of the wind on your chest and head and the BB Gun stings of the big bugs hitting you takes its toll on longer trips!:mad:

Regards!
 
Thanks for all the reply's!

Yes, I like the idea of easy removal of the wings - maybe on the next upgrade he'll put a hinge on them! :confused:

I'm 6'2" and this morning I stopped like 10 times going into town making small adjustments. I now have mine around 1" from the top position leaned all the way "forward". When I straighten my back, I can just look over the entire windshield with no buffeting on the helmet. It really makes the bike much more enjoyable, that pounding of the wind on your chest and head and the BB Gun stings of the big bugs hitting you takes its toll on longer trips!:mad:

Regards!

That would be a very different angle from the vstreams, which seem angled farther back than some others I have seen (I didn't exactly get out a protractor and measure). Thanks for the input!
 
Mike, can you take a few pictures from all angles. I have the same (looking) bike as you and am looking at ordering the 22" clear. I would love to see it from all around.
Thanks!

No problem - here's a side angle fully forward and fully rear - thanks!

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Thanks for the pics... can you do a rider POV as well?

This thread/comments are just what I needed - i'm sold... now just gotta find the $ (damn Canadian dollar and shipping).
 
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