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My opinion, and it’s based on my experiences, is that the Honda maintenance interval for the air filter is too frequent. I think maybe Honda is trying to cover all possible conditions, including owners riding in very dusty conditions. Since I do not ride in dusty conditions, I am very comfortable extending the filter change interval. In addition, I rarely demand full air flow capabilities, and the NC air filter seems unusually large for it’s engine displacement. So, I change the filter at 24,000 mile intervals, but I have little doubt it could run 48,000 miles, a distance davidc83 has already passed with his NC air filter. Again, that’s my opinion. Of course, your mileage may vary.Yeah, replacing the air filter (cleaner) looks like the worst. I'm at 10k, so thinking I can put it off until the end of next summer, or maybe even the spring after that.
I think that's a pretty fair assumption. I usually replace engine intake filters (and cabin air filters in cars) on any vehicle that is new to me, because it is usually cheap and easy (esp. in Honda cars) and you never know what kind of conditions the previous owner may have driven in. But for this bike I'm happily waiting until it is actually due before I pull that all apart.I think maybe Honda is trying to cover all possible conditions, including owners riding in very dusty conditions.
You've got that right. Once you've done a Goldwing air filter, the NC's is a joke.The air filter is a 45 minute tops job even the first time. I can't believe simple maintenance items people put off because it's "too hard".
It is certainly a lot of hassle to get to the filter but it is worth it. Honda wouldn't recommend it if it weren't necessary. A discussion of how to make it simpler would have done wonders for the mechanic but that's a different topic.Yep, on my 2013, I went with the 16,000 mile valve check schedule...I do still replace the filter when I replace the oil after 8,000 miles. Heck, I still have the original air filter in the bike with 58,000 miles...no stumbling on acceleration and no drop in fuel mileage (when/if both occurs, I will change the air filter-I am just leary of taking off all that plastic to get to the air filter).
changed mine at 30k looked like yours. The filter is oiled paper like many new designs and trap more dirt put have a high micron sizeIt is certainly a lot of hassle to get to the filter but it is worth it. Honda wouldn't recommend it if it weren't necessary. A discussion of how to make it simpler would have done wonders for the mechanic but that's a different topic.
Here is why you should follow the recommended schedule:
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I actually replaced my air filter a couple hundred miles early this time and as you can see the filter is dirty and in some places absolutely filthy. You may not notice the damage now, but you are not doing yourself any favors by skipping a simple, affordable, and crucial task.
Comparing air filter dirt between owners is like comparing insurance premiums. Everyone’s situation will be different. I believe Honda cannot account for varied motorcycle operating conditions in their maintenance schedule, so they recommend replacement intervals for worst case conditions.It is certainly a lot of hassle to get to the filter but it is worth it. Honda wouldn't recommend it if it weren't necessary. A discussion of how to make it simpler would have done wonders for the mechanic but that's a different topic.
Here is why you should follow the recommended schedule:
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I actually replaced my air filter a couple hundred miles early this time and as you can see the filter is dirty and in some places absolutely filthy. You may not notice the damage now, but you are not doing yourself any favors by skipping a simple, affordable, and crucial task.
Yes I suppose. I think I've ridden in mostly best case conditions, the weather here is generally beautiful and easy, and I don't ride in the dirt. I do ride in the rain, but I don't see how that would negatively impact the air filter. My filters looked similar the other times I changed them.Comparing air filter dirt between owners is like comparing insurance premiums. Everyone’s situation will be different. I believe Honda cannot account for varied motorcycle operating conditions in their maintenance schedule, so they recommend replacement intervals for worst case conditions.
To be pedantic, the clutch system should be inspected every 4k miles/6.4k kilometers. The sidestand, steering head, suspension, and throttle operation should be inspected every 8k miles/12.8k kilometers. If those systems are not functioning properly, that is the time to take it apart and clean/adjust it.Is there a list of non-interval things that need to be greased and lubed? Like throttle cable, suspension components, wheels, etc. The things that maybe don't get done much except if you're working on that area?
I usually try to clean and lube when I reassemble things but although I have low mileage my bike is getting old and for the last 2 years have been stored on the street.
Thinking of doing a detailed clean and tune-up in the spring.
Both maintenance schedules shown in the beginning of the thread recommend changing engine oil at the specified mileage, or annually. Note the columns about annual check or regular replace. (That being said, I do not follow that timed interval advice for reasons of my own).Thanks, Janus I didn't think of the steering head.
Thanks, Greg that's good to know.
What I was asking for is if there is a list of things that are NOT on the inspection/replace list that does need to be greased/lubed or tuned-up. What I'm getting at is I have a low mileage bike If I followed the maintenance schedule I would have changed the Oil twice in the 7 years I have had the bike. The bike may not need to have some things changed and cleaned because of milage but because of age and being outdoors all winter long. Most bikes at 15k probably don't need to have the shock linkage lubed but when I swapped my swing arm for the aluminium one I lubed it because it did need it.
So I'm just looking for a list of things I can do all at once since I don't currently have a garage to do things regularly anymore.